Kiper says it's likely Skins will trade down

While the addition of Williams should work wonders for the D, I'd still feel a little better about things if we can pick up a talented DT or DE.

Let's face it, the guys we have now are of average ability at best and wouldn't be starters on most teams.

I really don't think Udeze, Smith, Harris, Wilfolk, Starks, etc will be top tier linemen in 4 years. I think they'll be solid (barring injury of course) but I would rather grab Taylor or Winslow. We'll see what happens!

I do agree that the two instant impact players here are KW2 and Taylor, I'm sure Gibbs and company are having a hard time deciding their plan of action. I guess alot will depend on how badly other teams want the #5 slot. Two first rounders and a second would be awfully tempting.

I believe we will keep that #5 pick, I also think we will dump a combo of player's and pick's to jump back into this year's draft, I don't mind giving up extra next year to get what we need this year, let's face it the area's we have need's in, this draft has some serious talent at those position's, we might as well go for it, who know's if that kind of talent will be avail. next year, and by obtaining our need's this year they will have 1 year's expierience under thier belt's next year, instead of us trying to break in a rookie when we may be on pace to go to the super bowl, next year we will have expierienced player's in the lineup.

its always easy to say lets give up picks this year and not use them next year, but it doesnt work liek that. Everyyear there are good players and every year our needs change. You need your draft choices because you never know who may get injured and wont recover well. Of course, im all for giving up picks to get Winslow and taylor.!!

its always easy to say lets give up picks this year and not use them next year, but it doesnt work liek that. Everyyear there are good players and every year our needs change. You need your draft choices because you never know who may get injured and wont recover well. Of course, im all for giving up picks to get Winslow and taylor.!!

Great point! We should not mortgage out future for one player (especially at the tight end position), regardless of how great he is.

that same scenerio applies anytime you draft a player it makes no difference when he's drafted, it's part of the NFL.

I am with SkinsCanes, Defense and the others who believe we should stay put at 5. Both ST and KW represent consensus impact players at positions of need. In fact, if they played any other position, they would probably be off the board before we got them. It is only b/c they play two generally low priority positions that we have a shot at them. Either one is a great "value pick" in the fifth slot (God, I hate that term - regardless of its relevance).

All the D-line prospects have question marks and none are a guarantee. No other draftees are both an impact player at there position AND fill a need of the Redskins. For that reason, I wouldn't trade out of the fifth slot unless it is part of a trade that guarantees us either ST or KWII and some additional later round picks. The number of ways that could occur are about a billion (give or take a million).

Lacking guaranteed impact players at other positions, I don't see any reason to trade next year's lottery picks for any thing less than getting both KWII and ST - the only guarranteed winners in THIS lottery.

I have to admit, it is very easy to say "let's trade next year's #1 for another #1 THIS year".

Then, if there's an injury, or one of your first round picks doesn't pan out, you're kicking yourself in April 2005.

But I will say this: NOTHING is guaranteed. Not Sean Taylor, not Kellen Winslow Jr.

Don't fall into that trap -- you'll just get burned. How many of us thought Heath Shuler, Ryan Leaf, and Tony Mandarich were "guaranteed" ??

Yes technically nothing is quaranteed, but the people you listed are QBs. QBs are taken high becuase of their importance but are always a high risk. If you looked at top ten players over the last ten years you would see there are positions that are minimal risks with a high pick. Safeties are one of those positions, along with tight ends. Of course how long would that list be of safties and TEs in teh top ten... definitly less than five over ten years. Corners in the top ten id bet have usually panned out well to. Id even include linebackers. Lineman can go either way a lot of times, along wth receivers and half backs. Although half backs have definitly proven them selves in recnent years (Ricky, Edgarin James, LT)