THE most important off-season/season?

Rod had to go. period. but anyone realize we have zero starting WRs from last year? Its Ramsey's first year starting, and he's throwing to all new guys to boot. there is A LOT of chemistry that has to be made before this regular season cuz the offense is starting from scratch (after last year, we had no choice).

To me this offseason seems the most important off-season in 2 decades (90's and 00's). So much is riding on this year, if this season ends like last year's, it will have a huge impact on the franchise.

The Redskins haven't been truly competitive for a long long time. Already we've had a host of players who jump at the chance to leave, to the point of straight abandoning us. (it's not that we lose, it's that we consistently find the way to lose at the end, after fighting hard 95% of the game).

Everyone knows contracts will get extremely hairy beginning next year. If this season doesn't work out, the skins will have to rebuild entirely, not just the passing corps, but the whole team, and everyone knows that takes YEARS of tough work. Tough years that I just don't see the two biggest assets we have, Gibbs and Williams, stick around for. Gibbs has already earned his retirement, and Williams, his own team.

I feel this year's team is stronger than last years, we finally have our monster Oline (lord, we have a CENTER!), speed on the edges, and a QB that can really chuck it. To me, Williams is an utter miracle worker, a genius who can make any 11 men competitive as a TEAM (attn: Arrington and Taylor). Portis may not be classic Gibbs mold, but his drive and open field talent are undeniable. I think we're more than OK, we're good. The million dollar ? is the all new Gibbs gameplan and QB/WR equation. The billion dollar question however, is what happens to the Skins after this season.

I wouldn't necessarily say he's throwing to all new guys. Jacobs, McCants, Thrash, Cooley. They've all been there before

Rod had to go. period. but anyone realize we have zero starting WRs from last year? Its Ramsey's first year starting, and he's throwing to all new guys to boot. there is A LOT of chemistry that has to be made before this regular season cuz the offense is starting from scratch (after last year, we had no choice).


I think we have found our excuse in the *unusual* circumstance that the Redskins underperform again this year. Kudos!

Cooley-Ramsey is the most solid link we have, but the others will only be occasional #3s. #1 and #2 will be new.

Jacobs could still end up starting, we'll see how the WR battle goes in camp.

When your coach/savior is 64, every year is a big year. Expectations are starting to get blown up again and eveyrone is forgetting that it takes at least two years to turn a team like the skins around - I really don't expect much of a record this year, I will be happy with a competitive 8-8.

BUT - Its way to early to say this year is make or break, because the fact is, two years is not enough time to turn this team around. Now years 3-5 is another story. Last season was a HUGE reality check for me, I was screaming 10-6 and the playoffs! Yet is was so damn obvious that my expectations were way to unrealistic!

As far as rebuilding, I mean, who doesn't do that to some extent every year?

I don't know about two years to turn around, there are several new contenders every year that bombed or really underchieved the previous year. If your a fan expectations have got to be high. Year to year it is hard to say how any team will perform the league is so up and down only a few teams are at a high level for long. Blow outs are becoming more and more rare, and teams winning by 3 and even 1 score can go either way a lot of times, just one play. How many one plays would we have like to reset last year cowboys game last possession, ravens sack that led to a score. We are not that bad and definitely made some solid improvements.

When your coach/savior is 64, every year is a big year. Expectations are starting to get blown up again and eveyrone is forgetting that it takes at least two years to turn a team like the skins around - I really don't expect much of a record this year, I will be happy with a competitive 8-8.

BUT - Its way to early to say this year is make or break, because the fact is, two years is not enough time to turn this team around. Now years 3-5 is another story. Last season was a HUGE reality check for me, I was screaming 10-6 and the playoffs! Yet is was so damn obvious that my expectations were way to unrealistic!

As far as rebuilding, I mean, who doesn't do that to some extent every year?

not only is our coach 64, but all of Snyder's big money contracts are about to self-destruct. they were all backloaded to next season and the season after.

My point was after this season there will be BIG changes in personnel and I can't see Gibbs hanging in there to see a freshly rebuilt team in the championship game when he's 70.

...the fact is, two years is not enough time to turn this team around. Now years 3-5 is another story.

We've had WAY longer than two years to turn this team around. How many times do we have to say another 3-5 seasons before there's consisently competitive performances or a playoff berth?

I believe we're operating under the general consensus that we started over after completely revamping the coaching staff before last season...