do we show our hand to soon (Barrow allowed to seek trade)

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backrow
07-22-2005, 12:39 PM
WoW! Now I remember why I don't frequent Extremeskins! My eyes like more light. Extremeskins is so dark! I had almost forgotten that Awesome read on cousinvinnie.

TheMalcolmConnection
07-22-2005, 01:12 PM
Seriously. AND the avatars AND the signatures...

BrudLee
07-22-2005, 01:35 PM
Well guess what jackass, Ive got a reason to! Look at the personell moves these idiots have made, that's why we are in the hole we are in. Thanks to Cerrato and Snyder, the following free agents and drafts have built our team (not).

Stephen Alexander (2nd round 1998)
Skip Hicks (3rd round 1998)
Mark Fischer (5th round 1998)
Nate Stimson (4th round 1999)
Derek G. Smith (5th round 1999)
Lloyd Harrison (3rd round 2000)
Michael Moore (4th round 2000)
Quincy Sanders (5th round 2000)
Sage Rosenfels (4th Round 2001)

Our middle round picks SUCKED for years!!! This is partially the reason we can't build a team.
On one hand, he's right. Lots of misses there. But take a closer look:
Stephen Alexander: 113 catches in first 3 years as a Redskin (most catches by a Redskin TE in that duration since 1993) - not re-signed after injury-plagued 4th season. Pro Bowler in 2000. This was not a bad pick.

Skip Hicks: 8 TD's as a rookie. Stuck behind Stephen Davis during Redskins tenure, purged during the Schottenheimer regime. Still in the league, by the way, unlike first round pick Curtis Enis.

Marc Fisher: 16 game starter in 2000. A quote from an interview with Business Week magazine - "In April of 1998, I was drafted by the Washington Redskins... During my half decade in the NFL...I broke my leg, tore my anterior cruciate ligament, disfigured my fingers, got married, had a son, started 18 games... got released and retired." Doesn't sound like a screw-up by the front office.

Sage Rosenfels: Drafted by one coach, traded by another. The year Rosenfels was traded we had complete turnover at the position - not one QB remained on the roster. Rosenfels still has a job in the NFL, which indicates he isn't entirely a lost cause.

As for the rest, you win. Like every team in the NFL, the Redskins have made some bad picks. Don't believe me? In 2000, the mighty New England Patriots (the benchmark by which all drafts should be measured) selected Adrian Klemm, J. R. Redmond and Greg - Robinson Randall. Klemm, the top pick, saw action in 2 games last year. Redmond has 196 career carries and is no longer with the team. Randall is no longer with his team, and got exactly zero snaps in 2004.

MTK
07-22-2005, 01:35 PM
Why don't we find out the answer to our decision-making questions straight from the horse's mouth (http://extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?&threadid=95692)

Good find...

I knew I had read that before, I just couldn't place where it was from.

TheMalcolmConnection
07-22-2005, 01:39 PM
Cerrato is a pretty stand-up guy it seems like to me.

paulskinsfan
07-22-2005, 02:22 PM
Forgot to mention that wonderful trade deal that brought us Trung Candidate. Anyone remember if we gave up a 2nd or a 3rd rounder for Trung?

Schneed10
07-22-2005, 02:31 PM
Forgot to mention that wonderful trade deal that brought us Trung Candidate. Anyone remember if we gave up a 2nd or a 3rd rounder for Trung?

This is getting old, Paul. What does Trung Canidate have to do with a front office in which Gibbs calls the shots??

That's not a rhetorical question.

celts32
07-22-2005, 02:44 PM
Cerrato is a pretty stand-up guy it seems like to me.

Vinny never stands up...it would be to hard for him to keep his nose up Danny's butt if he were standing.

SmootSmack
07-22-2005, 02:57 PM
Vinny never stands up...it would be to hard for him to keep his nose up Danny's butt if he were standing.


Ba--Zing!!!

SmootSmack
07-22-2005, 02:59 PM
Forgot to mention that wonderful trade deal that brought us Trung Candidate. Anyone remember if we gave up a 2nd or a 3rd rounder for Trung?

I'm going to steal a quote that someone else used on a sister site, taken from the 1970 movie Kelly's Heroes..it should be our mantra.

"Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?"

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