Maybe a Turnaround?

i believe all workouts are important but with that aside i agree with daseal, Taylor never really said he was holding out. Gibbs also says he didn't know why Taylor wasn't at OTAs, either gibbs was playing for the media or no one ever told gibbs that Taylor was holding out, niether Taylor or Roesenhous, so why would we think he was holding out.

Roesenhous has been an agent long enough to know that rookies can't make changes to their contracts in the first year, so knowing that why would he even try.
taylor's not a true redskin. Would you be...
Please remember not everyone grew up loving the skins like us fans. First He's drafted under contriversy, then he sign's a contract many in the league say he got stiffed, then he's been persecuted by the DC media since his arrival. Everyones mad at him cause he choses not to speak. He comes from Miami were he's treated like a god to DC were he's treated like a punk kid on a sorry team. if u haven't noticed 40% of the dc area media act like their cowboys, Giant, or Eagle fans (hate to say it)
while other people around here are stuck in the past.like this is the jack kent cooke era.
I say suppport him as a team and organization and he'll become a true redskin. There have been no real true redskins since Snyder has been the owner. Thats because he is so busy fuckin up everyones contract, stiffin our franchise players and fans (with those outrageous ticket prices), and makin bad impressoins around the league. It's hard to get any real loyalty from any player for the skins now a days. come back Jack!!

Just finished watching NFL Live on ESPN, they seem to believe that the hearings will preside after the season is finished.

We've had other coaches in the past that were lenient with off-season workouts too, and look where that got us.

While we don't need camp Marty again, we certainly don't need camp Norv or camp Spurrier again either. I think Gibbs is very aware of how hard to work the team and can find a happy medium.

I agree there's a fine line between working your guys too hard and getting them in top condition. But I do think working hard in the off-season can have it’s benefits. Not just for conditioning, but for building team chemistry.

Daseal:

You are parsing sentences here like former President Clinton. Taylor never said he would hold out because he wanted a new contract, but he did indeed say he is unhappy with his current deal and wants a new one.

I've never heard ST or Ronsenhaus say it. Maybe I missed the news article that had these quotes. As far as I know, it's all speculation from the media due to the fact that ST never explained his absences.

I've never heard ST or Ronsenhaus say it. Maybe I missed the news article that had these quotes. As far as I know, it's all speculation from the media due to the fact that ST never explained his absences.

I agree. SportsCurmudgeon, I have no idea where you're getting this. Gibbs even said that he doesn't believe Sean's absence is due to contract issues.

He's just a head-case. I hope he stops being a head-case for sure. But if he misses non-mandatory workouts, I won't hold it against him. As long as he makes it to camp and plays hard this season, I'll be happy.

I'd also like to see him avoid getting into situations like the one he's in now. From everything I'm reading, he's pretty likely to be acquitted of the charges outright; but he shouldn't have gotten into the situation in the first place. He's got to hang around the right people.

But as long as he is in camp, gets in shape quickly, and plays hard this year, I will have no beef. If he does those things, he'll be a serious menace in our secondary, you can take that to the bank.

taylor's not a true redskin. Would you be...
Please remember not everyone grew up loving the skins like us fans. First He's drafted under contriversy, then he sign's a contract many in the league say he got stiffed, then he's been persecuted by the DC media since his arrival. Everyones mad at him cause he choses not to speak. He comes from Miami were he's treated like a god to DC were he's treated like a punk kid on a sorry team. if u haven't noticed 40% of the dc area media act like their cowboys, Giant, or Eagle fans (hate to say it)


No offense, but cry me a river. First off, he got a guaranteed $7.2 million signing bonus before he ever stepped on the field (which is over $1.5 million more than Ed Reed has gotten paid all his years combined, including this year's salary under his current contract). Second, the media was not harder on ST than they've been on any other star athelete in DC. Missing rookie events, getting pulled over for drunk driving and getting arrested for aggrevated assault with a firearm will tend to bring some negative publicity unto yourself. Third, the only controversey surrounding his draft pick was KWII spouting his big mouth off about how he was "promised" by the skins to be drafted. There wasn't any controversey surrounding Taylor being selected. The pick was immediately embraced by most fans and the team. Fourth, the players and fans tried connecting with ST and making him feel at home immediately. ST just decided to spit in their faces and spend more time hanging with his friends in Miami, rather than attending voluntary camps where he should have been like every other Redskins player. And Fifth, and most importantly, he's a professional athelete being paid to do a job. He doesn't have to grow up loving the skins like us..........but when he gets paid millions of dollars to play a game for our team, I expect some loyalty and some professionalism.


I say suppport him as a team and organization and he'll become a true redskin. There have been no real true redskins since Snyder has been the owner.

I would argue that Arrington, Samuels and Jansen are "true" long-term Redskins. Of course that's up for debate and everyone has their opinion on the matter, but, to me, I feel good saying those guys are skins.

Let's say this whole gun thing never happened with ST.

While I don't see it happening now after that debacle, would anyone have been surprised if ST decided to hold out for a new contract?

If you say yes you're seriously delusional. Speculation or not, there is some truth to it.

If you say yes you're seriously delusional. Speculation or not, there is some truth to it.

Where are the quotes though? Everyone seems to know that he is unhappy with his contract, even without him saying as much.

If there was some truth to it, it wouldn't be speculation, it would be fact.

You can blame the (probably liberal) media for the "misconception" that Taylor wants a new deal.
Taylor, who wants a new contract, has been working out in Miami despite pleas from coach Joe Gibbs to join the team in voluntary workouts at their home base in suburban Washington. He signed a seven-year, $18 million deal as the No. 5 overall draft pick in the 2004 draft.
Redskins Coach Joe Gibbs expressed frustration over the absence of Santana Moss and Sean Taylor from voluntary offseason workouts. Gibbs said he believed that Moss's absence was related to his desire for a new contract. Gibbs confirmed last week that team officials had held discussions with Taylor to hear his contract concerns, but at this point the Redskins do not appear inclined to greatly alter that deal.

Just google the phrase "Sean Taylor new contract". There will be no shortsge of links.