For the Dockery haters

Defensewins, please explain to me exactly why you think Dockery isn't any good. I hear you saying he's labeled as a young developing player, and I hear you saying these other two rookies played better than Dockery, but what I'm not hearing are the specifics.

WHAT DID DOCKERY DO WRONG???

Nobody can ever answer that question. The only thing the guy messed up with was penalties. How many times did he miss an assignment? Not many, blitz pickups are simple for a guard, they just stay on the DT in front of them and let the HB worry about picking up the blitzing LBs. How many times did he get bulldozed by a DT? None that I can remember. How many times did he fail to get to his blocks on running plays? Not many. Which side did the Redskins tend to run towards last year, the Dockery/Samuels side or the Thomas/Brown side? Answer, Dockery/Samuels.

I don't get why people think he was bad. The only argument you can make is penalties. If you can offer an answer to the question "what did Dockery do wrong", I'd love to hear it.


Wow! I can feel the anger :eek:
One thing, you guys need to stop putting words in my mouth or other people who just have a difference of opinion. No need to get upset. LOL!
I never said Dockery "is not any good'" or "we should get rid of him" or he sucks. Frankly, I do not want to cut him. All I am saying is he is very average at best. At times during his first two years he made a lot of mental mistake, offsides is the one that comes most to mind. Next to (#1) turnovers, penalties are the #2 drive killer. So to say he just commits penalties is a huge understatement. Superbowl teams do not commit a lot of mistakes and penalties.
My main issue with Dockery is his play, he is not a nasty, pancake blocker type. For a guy that is 6' 6'" and 345 pounds he is not knocking people down or back very much, if it all. I have never seen Dockery knock a guy off the line like I saw Jacoby (undrafted player) do. Dockery (third round pick) is more of a contain blocker than an agressive push someone back type. If we found another Randy Thomas or Russ Grimm, Dockery would make a great back up. My current opinion of Dockery is just that, it should not piss you off. Hopefully Dockery will take the next step in his level of play...I hope!

DefenseWins - I don't ever want to see you cry for continuity. For a group that requires so much communication and bonding the offensive line should be reviewed more as a unit than individually. It's important to stop replacing people, especially young players, so quickly. How about we try to keep an offensive line (which I feel is top 5-10 in the league right now) together and let them get some continuity. His first year - look at the offensive line coach, Chris Samuels said he tried to tell him to block a different way than was taught to him in college, high school, and other places. That's a real problem, everyone commited mental mistakes. Dockery will be fine if we leave him alone with Bugel, Samuels, Jansen, Thomas, and Rabach for a while.

Wow! I can feel the anger :eek:
One thing, you guys need to stop putting words in my mouth or other people who just have a difference of opinion. No need to get upset. LOL!
I never said Dockery "is not any good'" or "we should get rid of him" or he sucks. Frankly, I do not want to cut him. All I am saying is he is very average at best. At times during his first two years he made a lot of mental mistake, offsides is the one that comes most to mind. Next to (#1) turnovers, penalties are the #2 drive killer. So to say he just commits penalties is a huge understatement. Superbowl teams do not commit a lot of mistakes and penalties.
My main issue with Dockery is his play, he is not a nasty, pancake blocker type. For a guy that is 6' 6'" and 345 pounds he is not knocking people down or back very much, if it all. I have never seen Dockery knock a guy off the line like I saw Jacoby (undrafted player) do. Dockery (third round pick) is more of a contain blocker than an agressive push someone back type. If we found another Randy Thomas or Russ Grimm, Dockery would make a great back up. My current opinion of Dockery is just that, it should not piss you off. Hopefully Dockery will take the next step in his level of play...I hope!

Defensewins, don't take it the wrong way, I'm not angry with you. I just can't understand people ragging on the kid.

It's very common for young players to make mental mistakes, which is exactly what penalties are. All he needs is coaching and time with his teammates. Now if his penalties do not improve this year, then I can kind of see your point, because this is his third year and he's had some time with his teammates.

But come on, we can't ask every player to be Joe Jacoby. It seems kind of rough to beat on him when you consider his play to be average, except for the penalties. You're right, he's not pancaking guys, but he's not giving up sacks either. If he reduces the penalties, suddenly the line as a group looks pretty darn formidable.

Of all the preview rags I've read this offseason, the one constant positive thing seems to be the offensive line. Most people agree it should be one of the better units in football. Personally I'm really excited for the offense this year, mainly because of the line.

I don't think that we should throw him away but if anything was to happen this offseason i wish that we would get a better line. I believe we are a full 40% better because raymer frankly sucked and we got an slightly above average center, stop hating on Ray he was a back up and now we have a strongly above average player to replace him Janson. I am happy with our line. I can see more time for our QBs. From what I have heard Samuels gave up 1 sack last year and dockery was standing next to him. He played well with samuels and now next to rabach he will play even better. I think that we are a great team at the o-line position and that is why that one site(i don't remeber which one but it was posted a few weeks ago) ranked us 3rd best on o-line and espn said we had the most potential in the east. simply if i was FORCED to replace one player on the o-line it would be dockery, not because he is BAD it is because everyone else is amazing.

All we want is perfection. The chiefs have that perfection, who are their WRs, who no one, Eddie kennison and Johnny Morton. OK not a great WR group, they are fast bout it. They have Gonzalez i say that but otherwise how does Trent Green become a QB that throws for 4500+ and number 2 in the league. It is the O-line that lead them to the most rushing tds in a game 8 last year. That o-line is the most important part of that team and that in my opinion is exactly what we need. We have fast Wrs and a good running back and a big arm QB, If that o-line plays we could be an above average offense next year.

Basically he is the weakest link and i think that everyone agrees with that. Does that mean he is bad, no but he is still the weakest and some of us want a great line. I don't want to replace him but if we had more cap money I wouldn't be completly opposed to it. BUT i think the line is currently in great shape for next year