SkinsRock
04-01-2004, 09:52 AM
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him head up I-95 to B-more. They are desperate for a solid #1/#2 receiver, and he would fit in well. I think they will try to get a 2nd, but end up settling for a 3rd rounder. The Skins should not offer anything though....let teams come to them. It seems they are doing that by saying they have no intention of trading him...I remember similar things being said about Trotter, B Johnson, and Bailey...
JoeRedskin
04-01-2004, 09:58 AM
As for trading Ramsey, I don't see it happening. Why? Quite simply, depth.
HEY!! are you dissing Defense?? Stop with those mean spirited and curt responses!! :thumb:
sportscurmudgeon
04-01-2004, 10:06 AM
I would not consider letting Gardner go to the Ravens who need a WR despearately for anything less than Ed Reed and Ray Lewis and Peter Boulware and a third round pick.
Psych...
raleighskinsfan
04-01-2004, 10:18 AM
You are hilarious Mattyk! (I'm not gonna let you get under my Redskin anymore, try as you may :)
Hey Defensewins- don't you think we're a little overloaded at WR and should try to shore up the D or do you think we can't get proper value for Gardner?
BrudLee
04-01-2004, 10:34 AM
You are hilarious Mattyk! (I'm not gonna let you get under my Redskin anymore, try as you may :)
Hey Defensewins- don't you think we're a little overloaded at WR and should try to shore up the D or do you think we can't get proper value for Gardner?
Thank goodness this long national nightmare is over.
The question is really, what is proper value for Gardner? He's had one 1000 yard season in his career, he has a penchant for dropping balls when uncovered, and he is measurably worse than our top WR (sorry, Rod).
He's also measurably better than our 3rd
Defensewins
04-01-2004, 11:48 AM
Hey Defensewins- don't you think we're a little overloaded at WR and should try to shore up the D or do you think we can't get proper value for Gardner?
We would not get anything of value for Gardner AND Trotter. Much less just Gardner. A 3rd-5th round pick in the draft does not assure you a starter. Especially with Cerrato/Snyder as GM's.
Regarding the high number of WR's.... before we got Thrash, Coles was the only proven NFL starting caliber WR on our roster. I think you guys are jumping the gun with proclaiming Taylor Jacobs a sure thing #2 NFL reciever.
I think Gibbs just wanted some insurance in case Jacobs and Gardner have another bad year.
Defensewins
04-01-2004, 11:59 AM
As for trading Ramsey, I don't see it happening. Why? Quite simply, depth.
I think JoeRedskin is the only one that realized I was kidding about trading Ramsey. I was trying to make the point that trading a cheap, decent player (Gardner) for peanuts just because you think we will strike gold in the middle rounds of the draft is not realistic. Do you really think Cerrato/Snyder will find a defensive starter in the 3rd-5round? If you do, you do not know the draft record of our current GM's...they have been terrible picking after the 2nd round.
raleighskinsfan
04-01-2004, 12:15 PM
I think you're right Defensewins. We shouldn't trade him for just a draft pick. We know what we have in him, a solid #2 receiver. McCants, though I'd like to think more of him, is still unproven as a starter- though I think he could be. And I don't want Thrash being our #2. We should probably hang onto Gardner unless someone offers us a really good DE or DT, which they probably wouldn't...
I think JoeRedskin is the only one that realized I was kidding about trading Ramsey. I was trying to make the point that trading a cheap, decent player (Gardner) for peanuts just because you think we will strike gold in the middle rounds of the draft is not realistic. Do you really think Cerrato/Snyder will find a defensive starter in the 3rd-5round? If you do, you do not know the draft record of our current GM's...they have been terrible picking after the 2nd round.
I understood, I was just taking a poke at raleigh that's all
JoeRedskin
04-01-2004, 02:39 PM
No, I don't think Matty understood... He was treating you like dirt Defense and is now simply trying to cover up!! You should respond in kind Defense!! (flame war flame war!! woo hooooo!!)