O-Line and ST questions

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aprius
06-27-2005, 01:47 PM
Why havent we gone after Scott Gragg or Ross Verba?
Gragg is a very good backup and Verba is an excellent starter at Tackle.
I think the 35 million request was bogus... He just wanted to get out of Cleveland....wouldnt you? Not exactly a winter wonderland at -40F.

Why dont we renegotiate ST's contract to pay for any additions?
Heck, you could void it on a morality clause or insubordination or a thousand other reasons.
ST and Drew know that and are probably shaking in their boots about that.
I dont have a good feeling about the trial.
I think he will get probation.
I think he will not be playing this year in any uniform.

I hope they write into all contracts that players are not allowed to use or own guns or lethal weapons.
Guns and knives keep getting players into trouble.
They should also write into every contract that it is void if the player is CHARGED with a felony (not convicted), DUI or possession of drugs and all signing bonuses must be returned.
The following contract should be for the league minimum for 5 years.
These kids would be forced to take the high road then and become adults.
They would be forced to make better judgements.

MTK
06-27-2005, 01:56 PM
First off it's very unlikely any sort of decision will come on Taylor during the season. Most reports are saying he's safe for the 2005 season.

In regard to the offensive line, if the staff felt they needed help, I think they would have gone after some help. They made one key addition in Rabach, and I'm guessing they feel pretty good about everyone else.

aprius
06-27-2005, 02:06 PM
I get scared about our lack of depth and having Dockery as a starter.
Dockery was awful last year.
Buges does have a way of developing players though.
I just hope our kids who are backing up the line develop in to something great and that Friedman and Raymer are cut because of lack of talent. I could smell how bad they stunk out here in Frisco....3000 miles away.
ST's trial begins the day after the season starts and will end a few weeks after that, at the most, and he will not play during that time.
Then when it is over he will not play the rest of the season due to suspension or jail is my feeling.

MTK
06-27-2005, 02:09 PM
I would argue that Dockery was far from awful. He's still green but we could do alot worse.

I wouldn't say our depth is so bad. We have Ray Brown, Friedman (I think Raymer will get the axe), Molinaro and Wilson.

aprius
06-27-2005, 02:12 PM
But you must admit Dockery played badly in comparison with his first year.
He has so much promise and I pray that was a soph slump not a harbinger of things to come.

aprius
06-27-2005, 02:18 PM
I hope what you say is true about ST playing this year. We need him alot.

MTK
06-27-2005, 02:24 PM
Personally I thought Dockery was much improved over his rookie season.

TheMalcolmConnection
06-27-2005, 02:34 PM
I agree. I think for him, as with Ramsey, it's his make or break year. Another year under Bugel will fix it I believe.

gortiz
06-27-2005, 02:39 PM
Dock was anything but awful! He wasn't spectacular, but I think serviceable. I mean, not many people can make very good calls on the ability of lineman because you don't hear about them when they are doing good. . .I didn't hear much about Dock last season.

I'm starting to think that this last Taylor incident is going to be just one speed bump on a long and troubled life for this dude. I'm not saying he is not going to have a good career, he already is in fact good, but man, he is a thug. Wait till he gets married, screws that up, crashes cars, and I'm calling this now, he is going to get into a fight with a teamate, then not pay taxes, maybe some kind of substance abuse...Sorry, I know this a crappy thread, but I'm feeling it. At this age, his resume is longer than so many players. His balls must be dragging on the floor to hold out after his rookie year and not call Gibbs?? Hang on boys and girls!

heybigstar
06-27-2005, 03:18 PM
Dock was anything but awful! He wasn't spectacular, but I think serviceable. I mean, not many people can make very good calls on the ability of lineman because you don't hear about them when they are doing good. . .I didn't hear much about Dock last season.

I'm starting to think that this last Taylor incident is going to be just one speed bump on a long and troubled life for this dude. I'm not saying he is not going to have a good career, he already is in fact good, but man, he is a thug. Wait till he gets married, screws that up, crashes cars, and I'm calling this now, he is going to get into a fight with a teamate, then not pay taxes, maybe some kind of substance abuse...Sorry, I know this a crappy thread, but I'm feeling it. At this age, his resume is longer than so many players. His balls must be dragging on the floor to hold out after his rookie year and not call Gibbs?? Hang on boys and girls!

Great Post.... I also read that article about Taylor where they show he has a good side and a bad side. He is just a very intense player. That translates to causing chaos for other defenses on the field.

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