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MTK
09-06-2024, 04:15 PM
2 time MVP/first team all pro isn’t elite?

Oy

calia
09-06-2024, 05:28 PM
The dude ran for 122 yards and threw for 275 or something like that last night. Yeah -- bad through missing Flowers, but this is a tough crowd.

Not sure I can agree with mredskins that KC was smoking B'more -- the Ravens had more first downs, more total yards (100 more) and rushing yards (185 rushing yards v. 72 for KC), better time of possession, better 3rd down conversion rate, and more sacks. But for some terrible clock management (is RR on their staff?) and a toe over the endzone, the Ravens could well have walked into Arrowhead and beat the champs. In all, great game and start to the season.

HTTR
09-06-2024, 06:17 PM
The Ravens may not be elite, but Lamar is not the reason for that


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skinsfan69
09-06-2024, 07:26 PM
2 time MVP/first team all pro isn’t elite?

Oy

It depends on how you judge an elite player. To me the elite players are few and far between like Mahomes or Justin Jefferson. The best of the best. I don't put Lamar in that category. I did say Lamar is a great player, which I believe he is. But there's a difference between being a great player and an elite one.

MTK
09-06-2024, 11:16 PM
Mahomes is in another class all by himself

It’s ok to call LJ elite, multiple MVPs/all pros is elite

He’s won nearly 75% of his regular season games, again pretty elite

Darrell Green Fan
09-07-2024, 08:22 AM
Regarding Lamar both arguments can be true. He is an elite QB and without him I agree they are a .500 team if that. But there is also no question at this point that his limitations as a passer is the reason they have not advanced in the playoffs and I too highly doubt he will ever be a Super Bowl winning QB.

Like the Cowboys this is just such a tough situation to be in, they don't give out rings for regular season accomplishments.

AnonEmouse
09-07-2024, 09:37 AM
I agree LJ's their best chance to win, but I can't call him elite because he's effectively a running back that can pass. To be elite he has to be able to lead his team to the promised land and it looks like he can't. If he wins the big one, maybe.

AnonEmouse
09-07-2024, 09:41 AM
On the Eagles game, something went wrong on Sky TV over here last night so I can't watch the game. Only got 5 mins. of highlights.

The Packers looked like they should have been 2 TD's up early but settled for FG's. Was it poor offence or good defence? Curious, given the result, whether the Eagles D is all that good this season.

Chico23231
09-07-2024, 11:28 AM
On the Eagles game, something went wrong on Sky TV over here last night so I can't watch the game. Only got 5 mins. of highlights.

The Packers looked like they should have been 2 TD's up early but settled for FG's. Was it poor offence or good defence? Curious, given the result, whether the Eagles D is all that good this season.

The big takeaway is Barkley is a fit with the Eagles and they look like an elite offense because of him.

Defense of eagles is a mixed bag, that secondary still looks vulnerable.

Meks
09-07-2024, 12:06 PM
The sheagles had.no business winning that game. Penalties were fast and furious on both sides. Packers play calling, a missed fg, and flags kept them out of the end zone. Barkley looked great, that's not good. Hurts still sucks IMO had a couple lucky throws. And that fuckin Fanook ass cheat butt touching play made several appearances. Refs sucked ASS on what became the final drive and sealed the win for philly twice.

Jordan love.got.injured attempting the subsequent hail Mary. Malik Willis should go work at Wal mart.


Sheagles 1-0.
Gay as all hell.

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