Further Proof of an Anti Redskins Bias in the National Media

Offiss, from what I saw his speed was what opened him up more than jukes. He also was lucky to play when our special teams were starting to improve a bit. He actually got some blocks. I'm not taking anything away from Brown, I think he's better than Morton without a doubt, but I don't feel Morton was as bad as people want to say.

2004 - 6-10
2003 - 5-11
2002 - 7-9
2001 - 8-8
2000 - 8-8
1999 - 10-6

5 seasons without going over 500 in a row. How exactly does that not make us a perenial loser? Phinehas - the records speak for themselves, the Redskins, for the past 5 years, have been losers.

Actually you're incorrect - the past three seasons we have been losers, an 8-8 record isn't really considered a losing season.

Chad Morton was not a bad return man. The problem is that a return man is all he is and all he is ever going to be.

I have to go with Offiss on this one...I believe he had some nice moves along with some killer speed - impressed me far more than what Morton has done for us.

that's mainly cuz the two teams play painfully dull basketball. yeah they play basketball pretty much how it should be, except bowen grabbing people's arms ;) , but pro basketball is also about entertainment and neither team really offers much excitement to those watching except for actual fans of the 2 specific teams.


You've never seen Manu Ginoboli..................

Actually you're incorrect - the past three seasons we have been losers, an 8-8 record isn't really considered a losing season.

skinsguy is right .500 is not a losing season, its not winning either. I think to more adequately describe what you are trying to talk about is 5 straight seasons without a playoff appearance.

that's mainly cuz the two teams play painfully dull basketball. yeah they play basketball pretty much how it should be, except bowen grabbing people's arms ;) , but pro basketball is also about entertainment and neither team really offers much excitement to those watching except for actual fans of the 2 specific teams.

Hmmmmmmmm let's see Redskins #3 in defense, and I bet you find that painfully dull too.................

skinsguy is right .500 is not a losing season, its not winning either. I think to more adequately describe what you are trying to talk about is 5 straight seasons without a playoff appearance.

We haven't had a good record since the 1990s - that's a pretty solid basis for criticizing the Redskins. The constant coaching turnover, the free agency binges, Danny's arrogance, and the tiff with the Washington Post are pretty good reasons for the media to poke fun at our expense.

I love the Redskins, but we haven't given the media any reason to do anything but doubt us and sneer at our woes. Like Gibbs said last year - "[the Redskins] are not going to silence the critics until we start winning games."

5 seasons without going over 500 in a row. How exactly does that not make us a perenial loser? Phinehas - the records speak for themselves, the Redskins, for the past 5 years, have been losers.


You just don't get it, Daseal. I'm a fanatic. You can't reason with a fanatic. :D The Redskins are not losers no matter what your silly numbers say. What kind of fanatic would I be if I believed otherwise? A reasonable one? Who's ever heard of such a thing?


I love the Redskins, but we haven't given the media any reason to do anything but doubt us and sneer at our woes. Like Gibbs said last year - "[the Redskins] are not going to silence the critics until we start winning games."


The sad part is that it appears winning games is required to silence more than just the media critics. It appears it is also required to silence pessimistic supporters masquerading as fans.

--Phin the Fanatic

Phineas -
As much as I applaud your enthusiam and optimism, vocally expecting more than 5-11 or 6-10 from a team you love doesn't make anyone a "pessimistic supporter masquerading as a fan". When such comments are directed at the members of this site - 99% of whom (sorry, ZackMills :Smoker: ) have shown the passion to argue with, for and about this team weeks before training camp even starts - it shows a lack of respect for your fellow members.

There aren't a whole lot of halfway fans or bandwagon jumpers here ever, especially this time of year. Try to remember that when you question the loyalties of your fellow forum members.