The Last 4 Years.

I agree that democrats are equally to blame. Both of them serve their corporate overlords and their big donors. When I hear things such as huge increases in campaign contributions I know it just means bought favors.

I however am not sold on the flat tax just because 25% (going with the example) to someone making 51K is a much bigger impact than some one making 200k. I don't have the answers. While I have been told I am aesthetically pleasing to look at I am not nearly handsome enough to be a politician.

A person making 51K under that proposal would only pay $250.00 in federal income tax (nothing on 50k, 25% on 1k).

A person making 200K would pay $37,500 (25% on 150k).

Yes those poor people that now have health insurance can afford that $10,000 deductible they are still flocking to Hospitals for care. Having access and affording the deductible are two different things. There are still 25 million without coverage.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/health-insurance.htm

So you're saying that all 25 million have a 10,000 deductible?LOL


From your own link

. In 2023, 21.8 million adults ages 18–64 (10.9%) were uninsured. This was lower
than 2022, when 24.3 million adults ages 18–64 (12.2%) were uninsured.

Actually proves more people are signing up as the ACA gets improvments.

It was widely reported that Trump paid no taxes in 10 out of 15 years as he claimed losses. He paid $750 in the year he was elected and again $750 the first year in office. See the link below. Not only didn't Trump deny this he actually bragged about it by stating "that made me smart" as well as (paraphrasing) "if you have a problem with it get the laws changed", which I agree with by the way. He was simply playing by the rules. But he most definitely paid less in taxes than you did in so many years. Is it really news to you that the ultra wealthy have ways to get out of paying their fair share of taxes?

Well many of us will work to change the laws by casting our votes in November.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

The wealthy not paying their fair in taxes is a myth.

Most of the government’s federal income tax revenue comes from the nation’s top income earners. In 2021, the top 5% of earners — people with incomes $252,840 and above — collectively paid over $1.4 trillion in income taxes, or about 66% of the national total. If you include the top 10% — everyone who made at least $169,800 — that figure rises to $1.7 trillion, or 76% of the total.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB1FXvYvcaI

The wealthy not paying their fair in taxes is a myth.

Most of the government’s federal income tax revenue comes from the nation’s top income earners. In 2021, the top 5% of earners — people with incomes $252,840 and above — collectively paid over $1.4 trillion in income taxes, or about 66% of the national total. If you include the top 10% — everyone who made at least $169,800 — that figure rises to $1.7 trillion, or 76% of the total.

Tell that to Warren Buffet's secretary. I'm not talking about the people making a few hunded grand a year, I'm talking about the ultra wealthy. Trump did pay very little in taxes, and bragged about it. I'm not making this up, that is wrong.

The wealthy not paying their fair in taxes is a myth.

Most of the government’s federal income tax revenue comes from the nation’s top income earners. In 2021, the top 5% of earners — people with incomes $252,840 and above — collectively paid over $1.4 trillion in income taxes, or about 66% of the national total. If you include the top 10% — everyone who made at least $169,800 — that figure rises to $1.7 trillion, or 76% of the total.

When a posters posts figures without a supporting link it's just a poster posting figures. While I'm sure the figures may be accurate you need to supply a link for context. But again I was not talking about the people earninng a few hundred grand, I'm speaking of people like Donald Trump or Elon Musk.

As for @nonnie's comment directed at me which claimed many if not most high earners were Democrats again I am talking about the untra wealthy. The truth is the 50 wealthiest families breakdown is 56% Republican and only 14% Democrat with the balance split between 2 spouces. Here is the list of the top 10 richest families and their party affiliation:

1. Walton – Republican

2. Koch – Republican

3. Mars – Republican

4. Cargill-MacMillan – Republican

5. Johnson (Fidelity) – Republican

6. Hearst – Republican

7. Cox – Democrat

8. Pritzker – Both

9. Johnson (S.C. Johnson) – Republican

10. Duncan – Republican

Hope everyone getting ready for Thanksgiving

There are folks abandoned by FEMA in North Carolina living in tents still after the hurricane

Reminder Biden/harris put and continue to put illegal pieces of shit in hotels, gave and continues to give them money on redeemable cash cards, flew them for free across the country.

What a complete embarrassment of an administration. Thank god we put trump back in

Hope everyone getting ready for Thanksgiving

There are folks abandoned by FEMA in North Carolina living in tents still after the hurricane

Reminder Biden/harris put and continue to put illegal pieces of shit in hotels, gave and continues to give them money on redeemable cash cards, flew them for free across the country.

What a complete embarrassment of an administration. Thank god we put trump back in

Nice try but you lie.

The open borders under Biden hasnt been a good look, even if there's debate as to the economic benefit. Trumps policies on that front will look optically better.

I think Trump did a decent job thru 2019 until he was unable to handle covid from a PR perspective. That said, I dont know what was so horrible about Obama's 8 years in office.

The open borders under Biden hasnt been a good look, even if there's debate as to the economic benefit. Trumps policies on that front will look optically better.

I think Trump did a decent job thru 2019 until he was unable to handle covid from a PR perspective. That said, I dont know what was so horrible about Obama's 8 years in office.

Obama wasn't the worst of Presidents (unlike the last two) but he is highly (very highly) overrated. When you actually look at the data he accomplished very little as he alienated the GOP with his very first engagement (Eric Cantor went to him and offered support for his ACA if he included a couple of GOP concerns especially Tort reform Obama told him "Elections have consequences" go pound sand). After that he only got two bills of consequence passed - ACA which wasn't fully successful and Dod-Frank which had mixed results and key elements had to be repealed (Repeal was even cosponsored by Frank). On the bad side he began the habit of the last three Presidents of throwing out or outright undermining everything his predecessor had implemented/accomplished whether it was good, bad working or not. I think the US would have been in a much better position if either of his opponents had beaten him.