Happy New Year - Ring in the year with a wish and a warning

My wish: a good GM and coach hire, and a good draft that gets us our franchise QB.

My warning: for people to realize that a lot of opinions they have are being influence by Ashburn syndrome.

at this point who is still here is probably staying, the hope is to grow the base

I am not saying the PROCESS is great bad or whatever, i am just showing how harris has done it in the past and generally the past predicts the future

whether you want believe it or not we are in the process right now; if anyone thinks we are going be the ravens next year, be prepared to be disappointed

Thank you for the background--maybe I should have directed my post at you, but I appreciate the civil response.

I believe that we are the Commieskins right now ;-) so we're not winning anything next year, but a 2-15 year in 2024 would definitely be deflating. My issue is that "the process" in Year 3 will send me running to the hills!

Big Sixers fan here. The process has had a lot of ups and downs. There were definitely some piss poor draft choices and hires in that organization that stalled “the process”. Overall though, they have become perennial contenders so I trust Harris.

The ability to correct mistakes and move forwards is a good sign. No way we're going to hit on every player in the draft. But that's not an excuse to be as terrible as we always are.

QB above all else.

If a new GM thinks a trade up to grab their guy is necessary then just do it.

Fuck no. Did we not learn our lesson or learn one from the 49ers, the Browns, the Bears....etc...


The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. If we trade up, this franchise is fucked. Period.


Also, just having a QB doesn't mean jack shit. Look at the Chiefs record right now and they got the best on the planet.

Big Sixers fan here. The process has had a lot of ups and downs. There were definitely some piss poor draft choices and hires in that organization that stalled “the process”. Overall though, they have become perennial contenders so I trust Harris.

I am Celtics fan so I have watched it over the years

The NBA is a whole different beast then NFL ; the players in the NBA rule the roost; you get 3 superstars and they want play together they can make a huge impact very quickly

The NFL the best teams are built through the draft and some timely FA pick ups

Fuck no. Did we not learn our lesson or learn one from the 49ers, the Browns, the Bears....etc...


The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. If we trade up, this franchise is fucked. Period.


Also, just having a QB doesn't mean jack shit. Look at the Chiefs record right now and they got the best on the planet.

I generally agree, and if we have the 2nd, and Chicago tries to get some crazy compensation then don't do it. BUT, if they take their 2nd back and next year's first, and the FO is absolutely convinced of the best one, then they should take the shot.

I am Celtics fan so I have watched it over the years

The NBA is a whole different beast then NFL ; the players in the NBA rule the roost; you get 3 superstars and they want play together they can make a huge impact very quickly

The NFL the best teams are built through the draft and some timely FA pick ups


I actually had said the same in my post about the nfl being a different animal. I edited it out. Totally agree though.

Fuck no. Did we not learn our lesson or learn one from the 49ers, the Browns, the Bears....etc...


The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. If we trade up, this franchise is fucked. Period.


Also, just having a QB doesn't mean jack shit. Look at the Chiefs record right now and they got the best on the planet.

How many SBs have they won with him so far?

How many SBs have they won with him so far?

Exactly there will be down years but they are always in the mix


honestly he gets in the playoffs, don't count him out, the nfl is a one and done playoff system ; KC on any given Sunday could beat anyone

Agreed on both counts.

We fuck up picking the wrong qb it will set this franchise back another 3-5 years.

Cred I agree, I'd love a name change. But it's not a priority. Whatever the name is I want people to put respect on it because we're a tough team to play.

Clev Browns are going to the playoffs and winning games with a QB they picked up off the couch. It won't set us back 3-5 years.