Forty whiners vs lackeymanders

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EdmundDorf
01-01-2024, 02:08 PM
Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.

This team probably wins 4-6 more games if not for the colossal collapse on the defensive side this year. Sam's not going anywhere, but it would be tough to pass on one of the top 2 QBs in the draft. If I were a betting man, I would bet that the new regime drafts CW, DM, or JD. Sam & one of them battle it out for QB1.

If you are picking a QB that high there will be no battle. Howell will be the backup, but I wonder whether he will be a trade chip at the deadline if a contending team loses its QB early in the season and gets desperate.

AnonEmouse
01-01-2024, 02:19 PM
Unless it was a really good offer that would make little sense. We know Howell is capable, even if he only ever ends up a backup. He's very cheap and probably warrants extending then trading down the line when his trade value is possibly higher. And he's tough; ideal quality in a backup.

BaltimoreSkins
01-01-2024, 02:21 PM
Trouble is it seems the coaches ( and media and fans) have been pounding the idea of not taking sacks into Howell that his play took a no dive as soon as he gave into that idea

I have to agree, Pritchard has not done Howell any favors. It shouldn't be too hard to teach a QB with Sam's arm strength to turn and throw the ball out of bounds and one yard from the LOS. Especially within 1 second and from shotgun

BaltimoreSkins
01-01-2024, 02:44 PM
I'd say it was nailed on we'll take a QB with our 1st pick. I mean, they might get a trade offer to consider, but the new guys can't be the idiots RR etc. have been in assessing value and available talent. So it would have to be a fantastic offer to give up what looks likely to be the #2 overall. And if it is a fantastic offer and they believe it means they can load up the roster in year 1 around Howell, I'm good with that too. If nothing else, what the 49ers have shown this owner first hand is how to use the draft, trades and FA wisely to build a solid roster (with just the Lance debacle as a black mark). Just like the Ravens, the organisation Harris espouses he wants to emulate. Lets hope he gets his wish.

It is very likely that whoever will be GM does not view QB1 currently on the roster. Right now there are a lot of options including rolling with Sam and they all give me hope.
Draft a top QB prospect
If they have a willing trade partner, trade back and still get a guy you like later in the first with additional draft capitol
or trade back with a willing trade partner take a flier on a late round QB and roll the dice again as we build roster through the draft.

We could have the same record next year as we did this year but the team and season could be enjoyable to watch.

REDSKINS4ever
01-02-2024, 03:48 AM
Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.

This team probably wins 4-6 more games if not for the colossal collapse on the defensive side this year. Sam's not going anywhere, but it would be tough to pass on one of the top 2 QBs in the draft. If I were a betting man, I would bet that the new regime drafts CW, DM, or JD. Sam & one of them battle it out for QB1.

Agreed

Chief X_Phackter
01-02-2024, 10:12 AM
If you are picking a QB that high there will be no battle. Howell will be the backup, but I wonder whether he will be a trade chip at the deadline if a contending team loses its QB early in the season and gets desperate.

I understand that is often the case, but I don't think it should matter where you are drafted. You should still have to come in and win the job. It would be dereliction of duty to name someone a starter - at any position - if he hasn't proven he is the better player...no matter where he was drafted. I hope we get a GM & HC who think the same way. Put the best players on the field.

EdmundDorf
01-02-2024, 12:03 PM
Something positive, rare at the moment

PFF Commanders -

Sam Cosmi is the highest-graded offensive player in the NFL since week 13 (92.0)

He has allowed 0 sacks and just 1 QB pressure

mooby
01-02-2024, 12:25 PM
Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.

This team probably wins 4-6 more games if not for the colossal collapse on the defensive side this year. Sam's not going anywhere, but it would be tough to pass on one of the top 2 QBs in the draft. If I were a betting man, I would bet that the new regime drafts CW, DM, or JD. Sam & one of them battle it out for QB1.

We're on the same page, I had the same thought. New regime drafts a new qb, he dukes it out with Sam over the summer and if by some miracle Sam gets over his issues we start Sam until the flame dies again. If new kid wins the job Sam gets a few years to ride the bench. Ideal way to start with a new staff.

sdskinsfan2001
01-02-2024, 12:30 PM
Something positive, rare at the moment

We have 1 keeper on the Oline. That's better than it was looking earlier. Glad he is playing well. Hopefully we can keep him around.

Now we just need 4 more starters LOL. Although I think Stromberg can start next year at C/G. But still need to add lots of beef up front.

skinsfaninok
01-02-2024, 12:54 PM
Something positive, rare at the moment

Hes been the best player on this team all yr

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