Eric Bieniemy

Although TH would have increased our time of possession, given his passes take so long to get to reach their target...

True, although in fairness, our OL has arguably been worse this year (which I didn't think was possible). Wylie has been an unmitigated disaster, as was Gates before he was replaced. Leno has been average at best and our LG situation has been dreadful too. Cosmi has been the only one that looks reasonably capable. And that's on RR, not EB (although I do wonder whether EB vouched for Wylie -- I assume so).

Also, our offense has not been aided by our dreadful defense which rarely produces turnovers or otherwise delivers a short field.

I cannot wait for this season to be over. And the new regime has really got to get it right quickly -- if the new HC and GM aren't a significant improvement over what we have and we don't see some reason for hope, they're going to risk folks thinking that nothing is different. The sad truth is that after years (decades) of being beat down, folks want to see change quickly and if it doesn't appear that way, whatever bump the franchise has seen since Snyder went away will be short lived.


All true, but EB is in charge of making the whole offense work effectively, including the OL. He inherited the players, fair enough, but he has been slow to game plan for their strengths and weaknesses. The ‘80s Hogs weren’t considered elite players individually (Mark May was the only first rounder, Jacoby and Bostic weren’t even drafted). The NFL requires constant adaptation and innovation, and I don’t see EB as excelling in that department.

As for how long the new regime has from the standpoint of fans . . . I’m thinking of the renovation (defined as putting us squarely and respectably in the playoff conversation) as needing 2 drafts and FA cycles. So many interdependent parts to assemble, including the QB situation. Just because Dan drove us all crazy doesn’t mean Harris has to start off in the hot seat.


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Although TH would have increased our time of possession, given his passes take so long to get to reach their target...

That would give the defense more rest. I am no mathematician but based on each of their throwing velocity I'd estimate we would pentuple the rest given to the defense.

That would give the defense more rest. I am no mathematician but based on each of their throwing velocity I'd estimate we would pentuple the rest given to the defense.

Why does the D need rest? They've been so bad stopping anything, they're on the field less time than the O as it is!

All true, but EB is in charge of making the whole offense work effectively, including the OL. He inherited the players, fair enough, but he has been slow to game plan for their strengths and weaknesses. The ‘80s Hogs weren’t considered elite players individually (Mark May was the only first rounder, Jacoby and Bostic weren’t even drafted). The NFL requires constant adaptation and innovation, and I don’t see EB as excelling in that department.

As for how long the new regime has from the standpoint of fans . . . I’m thinking of the renovation (defined as putting us squarely and respectably in the playoff conversation) as needing 2 drafts and FA cycles. So many interdependent parts to assemble, including the QB situation. Just because Dan drove us all crazy doesn’t mean Harris has to start off in the hot seat.


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To put us on a par with Eagles, 49ers, Cowboys etc. I agree 2 seasons minimum. But with the right GM, coaching staff, draft and FA we could easily be a tier 2 team. All hinges on the OL and overhauling the D (plus maybe a top tier WR). The right moves this offseason and we could easily be a playoff team.

Although TH would have increased our time of possession, given his passes take so long to get to reach their target...

haha well done

Bieniemy should be retained only because of Sam Howell's development.....plus this is only Bieniemy's first year and the offense's first year in the offense. The offense needs continuity.....especially Howell

Bieniemy should be retained only because of Sam Howell's development.....plus this is only Bieniemy's first year and the offense's first year in the offense. The offense needs continuity.....especially Howell

If he doesn't (and he hasn't seemed to) learn from his mistakes and change his fucking philosophy we're in for more screaming at the TV next year. Guys play calling is HORRID.

they don't have WRs, that is the issue

I wouldn't be surprised if EB went back

I think this is the most likely outcome.

He might get another HC interview or two, but Rooney Rule is still a thing and I don't know that he's done a good enough job developing Howell to bump him to the next level. We'll see though. Odds of him returning next year are slim. Our record necessitates everybody associated with this dumpster fire gets burned.

Mahomes praised EB yesterday. Wouldn’t be surprised if they did bring him back


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