Eric Bieniemy

Bears can have EB, I’ll take the compensatory 3rd rounder we’ll get when it happens.

That is a point to consider. Don't fire him at the end of the season even if you don't want him as HC give him permission to interview for HC here and elsewhere.

Just playing devil's advocate here (since I'm on the fire everyone and rebuild camp):

How would people feel if the new GM decides to hire EB as the HC, knowing that this would mean that Sam would continue to be QB1?

Again, not saying EB should be the new HC or advocating for it. I'm just curious what people would think of that scenario, given that there are strong opinions about sticking with Howell.

If it is that scenario I am fine with it. I don’t want to see keep EB OC then hire a GM and a head coach and I don’t want to see hire EB as HC then a GM

Because while EB instilled that discipline and that standard, notice Reid still called the plays?

It’s not like he brings nothing to the table but his former head coach never felt comfortable turning over those reigns. That says something too.

I think EB is a hardass but not that bright. We’re not talking McVay or Shanahan’s strategic thinking here.

I like this logic - EB might harp on paying attention to detail but that doesn't mean he's playing chess as a playcaller - using the run to setup playaction or running 5 different plays out of the same look. He's definitely not an elite playcaller.

Let em go with the rest of them

I like this logic - EB might harp on paying attention to detail but that doesn't mean he's playing chess as a playcaller - using the run to setup playaction or running 5 different plays out of the same look. He's definitely not an elite playcaller.

How can he not be an elite play caller when he designed KC's offense to top 5 success for 5 plus years ? I think the problem he has in Washington is the players being crybabies and EB being in his first year in WASHINGTON.

]Because while EB instilled that discipline and that standard, notice Reid still called the plays?[/B]

It’s not like he brings nothing to the table but his former head coach never felt comfortable turning over those reigns. That says something too.

I think EB is a hardass but not that bright. We’re not talking McVay or Shanahan’s strategic thinking here.

Not according to Andy Reid .

How can he not be an elite play caller when he designed KC's offense to top 5 success for 5 plus years ? I think the problem he has in Washington is the players being crybabies and EB being in his first year in WASHINGTON.

In 1999 Andy Reid took an interview with Philly and he brought a massive book that detailed exactly how he'd run every facet of the operation.

Everywhere he's been a head coach he's ran quality offenses with quarterbacks from McNabb to Alex Smith to Mahomes. Long before Bieniemy ever got an interview for a HC job.

And yet you want me to believe Bieniemy was the real brains behind the operation?

How can he not be an elite play caller when he designed KC's offense to top 5 success for 5 plus years ? I think the problem he has in Washington is the players being crybabies and EB being in his first year in WASHINGTON.


Matt Nagy and Doug Peterson built that offense for Andy Reid.
Nagy was hired by the bears and EB took over as OC.
EB inherited Mahomes and that offense.

In 1999 Andy Reid took an interview with Philly and he brought a massive book that detailed exactly how he'd run every facet of the operation.

Everywhere he's been a head coach he's ran quality offenses with quarterbacks from McNabb to Alex Smith to Mahomes. Long before Bieniemy ever got an interview for a HC job.

And yet you want me to believe Bieniemy was the real brains behind the operation?


EB was the OC that worked with that offense......whether he used Reid's plays or drew up his own plays EB deserves some credit.....despite EB not getting a head coaching job even Reid himself praised EB.

Matt Nagy and Doug Peterson built that offense for Andy Reid.
Nagy was hired by the bears and EB took over as OC.
EB inherited Mahomes and that offense.


Despite all of that none of us can grade how bad or how good EB truly is as a OC can't truly be determined until the OL is fixed and the offense truly develops continuity.