2024 Early Bird Draft Thread


skinsfaninok
02-07-2024, 10:57 AM
If you believe in Penix, it's great.

I would not be in favor at all. You can't come out of this draft without your QB of the future or multiple extra future firsts.

I personally wouldn't draft Penix in the top 4 rounds. He's gonna be injured, like always, in my opinion.

Two ACLs already in college.. Not good

simbosargos75
02-07-2024, 11:24 AM
Two ACLs already in college.. Not good

And a throwing shoulder dislocation.

Meks
02-07-2024, 12:16 PM
That does instill some fear for sure. And im not the highest on Penix, just want to build around Howell which was the first part of the post. Having a very solid FA and draft adding multiple starters on the OL and D -- that would be fine for me. Giving Sam one more shot.

Unpopular opinion of the year, for sure. The only long term QB im high on is MAYE

sdskinsfan2001
02-07-2024, 12:32 PM
That does instill some fear for sure. And im not the highest on Penix, just want to build around Howell which was the first part of the post. Having a very solid FA and draft adding multiple starters on the OL and D -- that would be fine for me. Giving Sam one more shot.

Unpopular opinion of the year, for sure. The only long term QB im high on is MAYE

Daniels or Maye would be my 1st choice.

But I'd be OK w/ this. I would assume this would mean a trade-down too, to get even more picks.

It's definitely exciting to see how this will play out. It's just so fucking nice, not having Snyder around to fuck it all up.

jamf
02-07-2024, 12:47 PM
Love all the old accounts coming alive!

Don't downplay the importance of a QB.
The Chiefs don't win a playoff game without Mahomes.

If Caleb Williams is even close to Mahomes in talent, I would sell everything to bring him in.

The good news is leadership brought in a guy that coached both Caleb and Mahomes.
If they do or don't trade for the 1st pick, it's probably the correct decision.

Next question is how close is Daniels.

AnonEmouse
02-07-2024, 12:50 PM
If you keep him until another team gets desperate due to an injury or another coach's hubris makes him believe he can turn Howell into a star, then you might get considerable more than a late round pick, maybe even a couple of mid rounders.

I was thinking more along the lines of he would be #2 if we didn't grab a vet, but you hit the nail on the head; keep him if only for just this instance.

AnonEmouse
02-07-2024, 01:04 PM
Love all the old accounts coming alive!

Don't downplay the importance of a QB.
The Chiefs don't win a playoff game without Mahomes.

If Caleb Williams is even close to Mahomes in talent, I would sell everything to bring him in.

The good news is leadership brought in a guy that coached both Caleb and Mahomes.
If they do or don't trade for the 1st pick, it's probably the correct decision.

Next question is how close is Daniels.

Agreed. Peters, Quinn and KK will be closest to the truth on Williams, Maye and Daniels than any of us. If they interview them right (and between them they have oodles of experience) then they'll have what they need to decide who to pick (and therefore whether to trade up to be sure of getting their guy). plus, what we see of all 3 is what the media is showing; unless any or all of them are great actors, sitting across from them and asking the right questions will illicit a strong picture of their character and potential. In the end, we all know the only way to be sure is when they get out on the field.

Only concern for me is giving up too much in a trade that we then can't fix the rest of the roster, and worse, if that trade doesn't pan out. You don't want to sell your Ferrari and end up with a BMW (or worse) when you could have kept your Ferrari and still gotten a Porsche too.

skinsfan69
02-07-2024, 01:42 PM
I dont even find it weird, he does it to honor his mom

in 2022 vs

Stanford
Utah
Arizona
California
The Bowl Game

2023

Washington
Stanford
Colorado
Arizona State

Justin Herbert didn't have a game in college that made you say OMG, had no problem getting drafted and we can all agree that robert getting hurt derailed him because that rookie season he was 100% looking like he was worth the hype. Every #1 pick is gonna get hype. I am not even saying trade up to go get him but people saying he is gonna be a bust because of finger nail polish, or because he cried when he lost is crazy.

Stroud had a hell of a game vs Clemson, he also was playing with top notch college WRs, Caleb hasnt had that, holding that ND game over his head like its the end all be all is short sighted

Another thing that I don't get is the argument that, "he played w/ top notch wr's".. And so did Joe Montana. lol. You still have to process, read and throw accurate balls. Joe Burrow played w/ top wr's in college and he is still a hell of a QB. When Stoud sliced up Georgia that was a signature game that should have had him picked over Young I feel.

We will see on Caleb. It wasn't just the ND game but we'll see. I do wish the kid well cause he is from here and I will always root for DC area players.

skinsfan69
02-07-2024, 01:49 PM
I'm not ready to agree that Robert getting hurt derailed his career. What derailed his career was his ego and inability to deliver the ball on time to the right receiver from the pocket.

That didn't derail his career. His inability to play at a high level did. Guys come back from knee injuries all the time.

He's kind of corny but I like listening to him doing media. But every now and then his narcissism comes out.

skinsfan69
02-07-2024, 01:52 PM
We got enough cap space to upgrade a couple areas away from the draft. Between the draft and FA we can literally put a much better roster together quickly. Peters needs to save us.
We are Princess Leia and he is Obi Wan Kenobi. He is our only hope.

You realize that Peters has kept everyone that was under Ron, including Mayhew and Hurney.

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