I think EB has shown flashes of being a good playcaller - obviously Sam Howell is putting up numbers (in flashes) better than we ever saw from Heinicke or any of the other dozen qb's in the last 5 years.
EB still has to grow too though - he needs to learn the importance of the running game, balance, using the run to setup play action, etc. which might take some time.
I'm on board with canning Ron and JDR after the season and letting a new guy pick whether to retain EB or not - I can certainly make the argument it would help Howell stay next year if they retained EB as the playcaller. Bringing in a new playcaller either stunts Howell's development or means bringing in a new qb and starting over which I don't want to do, at least on offense. I want them to shore up the weaknesses (offensive line #1) and focus on the defense after that.
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punch it in
11-03-2023, 10:22 PM
I think EB has shown flashes of being a good playcaller - obviously Sam Howell is putting up numbers (in flashes) better than we ever saw from Heinicke or any of the other dozen qb's in the last 5 years.
EB still has to grow too though - he needs to learn the importance of the running game, balance, using the run to setup play action, etc. which might take some time.
I'm on board with canning Ron and JDR after the season and letting a new guy pick whether to retain EB or not - I can certainly make the argument it would help Howell stay next year if they retained EB as the playcaller. Bringing in a new playcaller either stunts Howell's development or means bringing in a new qb and starting over which I don't want to do, at least on offense. I want them to shore up the weaknesses (offensive line #1) and focus on the defense after that.
Yes….preach. Nobody has even mentioned how a new offense would stunt Sams growth. He is actively trying to get rid of the ball as of very recently…certainly aware of it and a revamped oline will obviously help.
Totally agree with everything you said. A little patience and a lot of help, HC, DC, oline, lb’s, corner.
skinsfan69
11-06-2023, 11:07 AM
Anybody watch USC Washington on Sat? What's the deal w/ Williams? This guy paints his fingernails and ran into the stands and cried in his mommies arms. I don't think I have ever seen that before.
I would take Penix over Williams. There is just something off about Williams. He fumbles too much. Makes a lot of great plays but I don't think he is mentally tough enough for the NFL.
SFREDSKIN
11-06-2023, 11:33 AM
Howell is a QB who has played in different types of offenses and has done well. I think EB is getting too much credit for Howell’s success. If you got it, you got it and Howell does.
Anybody watch USC Washington on Sat? What's the deal w/ Williams? This guy paints his fingernails and ran into the stands and cried in his mommies arms. I don't think I have ever seen that before.
I would take Penix over Williams. There is just something off about Williams. He fumbles too much. Makes a lot of great plays but I don't think he is mentally tough enough for the NFL.
I think people need to ease up. He's a kid who just lost a tough game and was emotionally spent. Some out there calling him undraftable, give me a break.
mredskins
11-06-2023, 11:49 AM
I think people need to ease up. He's a kid who just lost a tough game and was emotionally spent. Some out there calling him undraftable, give me a break.
seriously
the amount of pressure they are under is got be incredible; i am sure plenty have cried in the same shoes as his just not as publicly
seriously
the amount of pressure they are under is got be incredible; i am sure plenty have cried in the same shoes as his just not as publicly
We see NFL players all the time cry on the sidelines after losing a playoff game or the SB.
It should be a non story.
mooby
11-06-2023, 12:09 PM
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I like to think we're all mostly rational minds on here - Howell has certainly shown enough at this point to see what he can do long-term.
skinsfan69
11-06-2023, 10:30 PM
It's not that the guy cried after a loss. It's that he jumped into the stands and almost laid down in his mom's lap and cried. You may see that in a little league game.Then this guy is painting his nails. Idk about Caleb. Is this guy mentally tough enough to deal w/ being a NFL top NFL starter?
Chico23231
11-08-2023, 08:54 AM
Anybody watch USC Washington on Sat? What's the deal w/ Williams? This guy paints his fingernails and ran into the stands and cried in his mommies arms. I don't think I have ever seen that before.
I would take Penix over Williams. There is just something off about Williams. He fumbles too much. Makes a lot of great plays but I don't think he is mentally tough enough for the NFL.
Williams gonna be a bust. I’ll take a more poised and less emotional QB. It’s definitely a maturity thing with Williams, which should be a flashing red flag
Penix is my guy as well he seems like a better passer. Who knows
For this upcoming draft I’m taking one of the top 3 tackles, a Linebacker in the second along with a pass rusher. Looking at Guard and TE as well.
Call me crazy, but the RB talent here is way underwhelming. I’m bringing in a free agent RB as well as drafting someone mid-late in draft.