2024 Early Bird Draft Thread

This post is depressing as fuck.

this team for 23 years has been depressing .. i refuse to buy into that a roster of 50 plus pro athletes all rides on one Rookie QB .. that's depressing! If you have the right system and a very good roster you don't need Mahomes .. what's depressing is thinking ONE guy alone will make or break it .. it takes the Entire team and staff/system ... I'll prove my point . IF Caleb Williams or Maye or Daniels are the answer then why didn't any of them win the National Championship?? WHO WON THAT??? ..

this team for 23 years has been depressing .. i refuse to buy into that a roster of 50 plus pro athletes all rides on one Rookie QB .. that's depressing! If you have the right system and a very good roster you don't need Mahomes .. what's depressing is thinking ONE guy alone will make or break it .. it takes the Entire team and staff/system ... I'll prove my point . IF Caleb Williams or Maye or Daniels are the answer then why didn't any of them win the National Championship?? WHO WON THAT??? ..

Out of the last 10 super bowl winning teams, 9 of them had hall of fame or future guaranteed HOF QBs. The one outlier was Foles.

You need a really good fucking QB to win a Super Bowl, unless you want to hedge your chances on a unicorn like hot streak Foles went on. Who then immediately faded back into obscurity.

Your super bowl chances are absolutely attached to your QB, regardless of experience.

Out of the last 10 super bowl winning teams, 9 of them had hall of fame or future guaranteed HOF QBs. The one outlier was Foles.



You need a really good fucking QB to win a Super Bowl, unless you want to hedge your chances on a unicorn like hot streak Foles went on. Who then immediately faded back into obscurity.



Your super bowl chances are absolutely attached to your QB, regardless of experience.Not only that, but the front office is doing a hell of a job laying a foundation for whichever QB they bring in.

You don't build a team by bringing in All-Star after All-Star. You build by bringing in players that know your system or you trust can learn your system and you build from the bottom up. This front office had a huge luxury with cap space lots of draft picks and a top tier of draft number two pick In a quarterback strong draft. I am happy to be optimistic and accepting whatever this front office does.

It's a breath of fresh air from the past 20 years.

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Not only that, but the front office is doing a hell of a job laying a foundation for whichever QB they bring in.

You don't build a team by bringing in All-Star after All-Star. You build by bringing in players that know your system or you trust can learn your system and you build from the bottom up. This front office had a huge luxury with cap space lots of draft picks and a top tier of draft number two pick In a quarterback strong draft. I am happy to be optimistic and accepting whatever this front office does.

It's a breath of fresh air from the past 20 years.

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Bingo .. you need players that FIT the system ..strong Leadership is a must!! some of you can look at it through rose colored glasses all you want and not want to deal with the depressing reality that nearly 50% of Top QB fail !! that is all i pointed out . FACTS ! So if following Facts and history bothers you then by all means believe what you will ..I have watched This team when Sonny was under center .You know how many QB's we have had since then ? We won super bowls with Doug Williams,JoeTheisman,Mark Rypien .. we had a Dominant D and Oline with world class coaching ! that's what i'm waiting for !!! It's won in the trenches and the coach and system !!

I did, and Rattler just isn't that good. Could he shock everyone and turn into something? Sure anyone could but Im not betting any money on him that he does

He has talent and has shown he can play. Is he an NFL starter? I would not draft him to be one. All I said was I would draft and develop him as a mid rounder.

I have always said that you need 3 QB's. I hope Peters drafts a guy late, you never know how things are going to turn out once these guys get to the next level. Plus Mariota is hot garbage.

I'm definitely more negative here than I am in real life. But yeah, I don't get the need to be negative about what we've all been waiting for, for a long time. We haven't picked anyone yet and he hasn't played a down. I mean, it's time to be positive, even just for sanity's sake.

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Arm strength looks good to me

Bingo .. you need players that FIT the system ..strong Leadership is a must!! some of you can look at it through rose colored glasses all you want and not want to deal with the depressing reality that nearly 50% of Top QB fail !! that is all i pointed out . FACTS ! So if following Facts and history bothers you then by all means believe what you will ..I have watched This team when Sonny was under center .You know how many QB's we have had since then ? We won super bowls with Doug Williams,JoeTheisman,Mark Rypien .. we had a Dominant D and Oline with world class coaching ! that's what i'm waiting for !!! It's won in the trenches and the coach and system !!

that was before free agency, before the money exploded, and back when defenses were allowed to hit people. It's a completely different league now.

that was before free agency, before the money exploded, and back when defenses were allowed to hit people. It's a completely different league now.exactly.

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this team for 23 years has been depressing .. i refuse to buy into that a roster of 50 plus pro athletes all rides on one Rookie QB .. that's depressing! If you have the right system and a very good roster you don't need Mahomes .. what's depressing is thinking ONE guy alone will make or break it .. it takes the Entire team and staff/system ... I'll prove my point . IF Caleb Williams or Maye or Daniels are the answer then why didn't any of them win the National Championship?? WHO WON THAT??? ..

Cincy went from the top pick to the Super Bowl in 2 years, it only took Houston one to go from the 2nd pick to the playoffs. Sure there were other players involved but if you can't see how having a franchise QB totally changes your fortunes, or how Patrick Mahomes is the reason the Chiefs are the Chiefs, I have no idea what game you are watching.

I am confused by some of the people here, all we heard before this college season is that this is one of the strongest QB classes in years especially at the top, were in position to draft one without having to give anything up and people are backpedaling better than Revis in 2009.

Since 2000 theres only been 5 SBs that didnt involve a first round pick at QB at all, and 4 of those 5 involved Tom Brady, the one that didn't 2002.

We have six picks in the top 100 (Then 2 more in the next 55) and have made very smart FA moves and we have players Allen, Payne, McLaurin, and Cosmi that weve seen play at a high to very high level.


Let's all take a breath and get ready to welcome either Daniels or Maye to the team.

Also, Mariota is a backup thats why he was brought here, dont know why we are panicing about him.

Part in bold is a great stat, thanks for supplying it.

As I had posted earlier after watching a bunch of their complete games, not clips the full game, I have done a complete 180 and am firmly on Jayden Daniels. Maye does everything well, I tried to convince myself that he is the guy, but he does nothing special. One look at Jayden Daniels and you can see special. If you are going to take a swing take a big swing on someone who could be special, not a guy who could top out at David Carr. As I'm pretty convinced Peters was in on Lance I have to believe that won't make him gun shy and they will go with the guy who could be special.