Ron Rivera's qualifications for being a evaluator of talent

If you look at the draft coverage for the last couple of years Mayhew has been trying to draft OL high but is, at least on some occasions, getting overruled by Ron. He wanted to take OG in the 1st round of last years draft, and he wanted to trade up for Avila in the second this year. I wonder whether he wanted to take Darrisaw when we drafted Jamin Davis.

Forbes, Martin, Dotson, Mathis, Davis, Cosmi, Young. These are the first two rounds of Ron's tenure. First round should be a legitimate starter week 1 in a well ran FO. You should be able to hit water falling out of a boat. Cosmi and Young are the only ones I would say Ron got right. Every other player we could've had on the team with a lower pick based on draft evaluation going in. You could have better success going straight chalk

LOTS of examples of 1st and 2nd round picks not contributing at a high level all across the league. Outside the top 5-10 picks (which still aren't a guarantee) the draft is basically a crap shoot in every round.

Not defending Ron and his staff, they haven't done well. But it's easy to look back now and pick apart decisions with hindsight. You can do that with literally every team.

I would say Ron is not a good evaluator of talent. However, I would also say it's not really his job. Sure, he is involved. He decides what the team needs, probably watches some film and makes the final call. My guess is his player personnel department isn't putting bad film in front of him, right?

Anyway, I'm with Hoglips, not sure why this warrants a separate thread. This is being discussed ad nauseam in multiple threads and he's on borrowed time anyway - won't be making anymore of these decisions. Moving along...

Is it RR who is ultimately evaluating these guys though? Maybe the final evaluation I suppose, but it's the player personnel department putting these players in front of him. Yes, RR's ultimately responsible for making the decision, but it's not like he's doing the leg work and scouting all these cats, rank ordering them, etc. Basically, it's failures all around. Everybody's gotta go!

The part I highlighted is all I need to know. The buck stops with RR. If he knows he has incompetents working in player personnel he should have fired and replaced them by now. It's called managing or fixing problems.

Picking Davis over Darrisaw was an abject failure by Ron. A child should have been able to get that one right.

Drafting Forbes over C. Gonzales was even worse. It was a true no-brainer to pick Gonzales.

After 4 years on the job, it's not about RR's qualifications anyway; it's about the results he has accomplished in building a winning football organization. At that, he has failed.

I think the simple solution is to have us evaluate and draft the talent.

The proof is in the pudding. Four years in and we have a worse oline, worse lb’s, our last two first round picks contribute zilch. Wentz [emoji1750]. Dude is a train wreck as a talent evaluator.

And yes, B-More we could have done a better job. I promise id have at least one good lineman.

I think the simple solution is to have us evaluate and draft the talent.

Problem solved. Close thread.

After 4 years on the job, it's not about RR's qualifications anyway; it's about the results he has accomplished in building a winning football organization. At that, he has failed.

That's the bottom line.

That's the bottom line.

Didn't know this was Stone Cold's burner account:

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Was going to put in week 8 but it fits here:
From Mark Bullock:
Pretty damning indictment on their offseason that they’re benching one of their key free agent signings and it isn’t for their third-round pick

And yes, Stromberg could be playing LG. I also understand wanting a vet at C to help a young QB with the calls. But the process is all over the place. Spent FA $ and a 3rd-rounder on 2 C’s, neither are playing C by week 8.

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