mredskins
09-28-2023, 08:39 AM
Through three games, we're 3rd in the league in yards per rushing attempt. We can run the ball, and the offensive line is a major reason why. You don't average 5 yards per rush with a dogshit line.
I personally think the offensive line has been way over criticized due to the amount of sacks Sam has taken. Of course the sacks that stick out, and the sacks everyone remembers, are the ones that resulted in a TD or safety when Wylie was beaten 1 on 1. However, most analysts I've heard - who actually look at the plays and not the box score - have indicated that the majority of the sacks aren't on the O-line.
Either way it's gotta get cleaned up, and that starts with EB.
This 100, its Sam
rocnrik
09-28-2023, 08:54 AM
I don’t have a good feeling about the game … I can see a epic blowout like Phi 52 us 17
If we come out flat and start like the first 3 games then it’s over early .. I would like just to see us keep it close and competitive .. This game will show IF Sam can adjust his play .. if the D can somehow keep us in it .. IF Ron can keep this team from collapsing.. If we lose bad and then get beat by the Bears it will be OVER ..I personally don’t see any way we beat the hated eagles .. hope I’m wrong
Chief X_Phackter
09-28-2023, 09:01 AM
Through three games the O-line is basically middle of the pack:
#16 in Pass Block Win Rate - 55% / Chiefs are #1 in PBWR - 76%
#19 in Run Block Win Rate - 71% / Eagles are #1 in RBWR - 78%
mredskins
09-28-2023, 09:05 AM
Through three games the O-line is basically middle of the pack:
#16 in Pass Block Win Rate - 55% / Chiefs are #1 in PBWR - 76%
#19 in Run Block Win Rate - 71% / Eagles are #1 in RBWR - 78%
Yeah we are "better" at pass blocking.
The line is middle of the road, its definitely serviceable.
Sam needs to get rid of the ball quicker
Chief X_Phackter
09-28-2023, 09:09 AM
It really just boils down to new OC, rookie QB, and mostly new O-line personnel. It will take time before they are all on the same page, and understand what they do well (and what they don't). The biggest part though, is Sam. He just needs to get the reps and grow every week. The team's success hinges on his progress and development.
sdskinsfan2001
09-28-2023, 09:40 AM
If we are the middle of the road, there are a lot of really shitty offensive lines out there then.
Although it does appear that I'm giving Sam too much of a pass in this whole matter. When I watch, it looks like the pocket is just not that great most times, but maybe it's just because Sam isn't firing that fucking pigskin at the top of his drop.
Still think we need to upgrade the whole unit outside of maybe Cosmi.
Hoglips
09-28-2023, 10:02 AM
Yeah and when he’s pressured he just throws the ball all over the place , he has to just eat a sack sometimes.
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Or just throw it away! Doesn't seem to be in his repertoire so far ...
BaltimoreSkins
09-28-2023, 10:58 AM
Through three games, we're 3rd in the league in yards per rushing attempt. We can run the ball, and the offensive line is a major reason why. You don't average 5 yards per rush with a dogshit line.
I personally think the offensive line has been way over criticized due to the amount of sacks Sam has taken. Of course the sacks that stick out, and the sacks everyone remembers, are the ones that resulted in a TD or safety when Wylie was beaten 1 on 1. However, most analysts I've heard - who actually look at the plays and not the box score - have indicated that the majority of the sacks aren't on the O-line.
Either way it's gotta get cleaned up, and that starts with EB.
https://www.hogshaven.com/2023/9/27/23892440/sam-howells-sack-issues-are-nothing-new
There is data here that supports this view.
EB's play calling with Mahomes: 62%pass:38%run
EB's play calling with Howell: 65% pass:35% run
That has to change.
Howell brings his own issues. As far back as a freshman in college he has been known to hold onto the ball and not know when to cut bait. This is what gives me pause when people say growing pains because this has been a 6 year problem that he still has. He is last in league allowing nearly 40% of pressures turn into sacks.
In defense of the o-line Sam has 2.5+ on 78 of his 124 drop backs that is second most to our favorite lightening rod Kirk Cousins.
Either way you slice it EB has to do a better job of working with his QB getting quick reads and running game as he hopefully grows into a quality QB.
Chico23231
09-28-2023, 11:20 AM
We should have been running the ball more since game 1. Oline looks to be a better run blocking than pass pro.
Sam certainly is responsible for sacks and would say it’s fifty-fifty.
I thought EB wasn’t very good last Sunday and the game plan wasn’t good at all.
BaltimoreSkins
09-28-2023, 11:45 AM
I know it is a SSS but the fact the pass run ratio is basically the same as Mahomes is absurd