NFL Draft Thread

Roullier and Fuller are both strong cut possibilities now. That will clear up quite a bit of money to sign post-draft cuts from other teams.

Gates, Stromberg, and Larsen can all play center.

Forbes, Martin, and Juste can all start at CB. Fuller is expensive to keep if you have other capable starters.

I would be surprised if we don't release Roullier shortly, although I don't think we are ready to release Fuller yet. We would be in trouble if we release Fuller and Forbes and/or Martin doesn't play well. Also, St. Juste still haven't played a full season yet.


Dantzler is almost certainly done, will net $2m with no dead cap

Forgot that we have him on the roster lol, he definitely will be released at some point.

I think the Ricky Stromberg was picked within his range, but I think we coulda moved back in the 2nd and still gotten the DB Martin.

I didn’t like that pick, like I didn’t like the Mathis pick there last year. Can’t piss away top 50 player picks


I think Stromberg and Martin could have been picked a spot later. I think we could have had a highly rated G thrown into the mix and still gotten these guys. I have no problem with the players. Martin is a versatile dback and Stromberg is a versatile inside lineman. Both will most likely start this year and I think both are excellent additions but we left money on the fucking table. The Mathis pick was worse, he too is a good player but that was a pure rotational pick in the second round. As the years go by Rivera is foregoing too many instant impact players in positions of need because he is staring down his guys. He is such a fucking simpleton. We could have a top notch oline and all these other guys but he is playing his cards wrong. And Jamin Davis better take a huge leap forward this year as Linebacker has been ignored early again. We might look back in time and say wow this was a good draft. All these guys are playing really well. But what will be forgotten is they all could have been had along with a dude like Ocyrus Torrence. Good news is Snyder will be gone and so will Rivera after this year is over. Maybe sooner if we really shit the bed.

Dawan Jones, Noah Sewell,
Blake Freeland, Jaelyn Duncan, Ivan Pace Jr, Owen Pappoe, Diabate, Emil Ekyor, Zack Kuntz. A lot of lineman, and linebackers, and TE’s left that we could grab today who would make an impact this year. Rivera probably taking a crap brushing up on available fullbacks right now , Mayhew is in the next stall reading Drafting for Dummies [emoji1750].

My take is different than most on here I guess. First of all, the draft isn't over. We have five more picks.

They have picked solid players, and they happen to be at positions of need (DB / OL) - feels like they are following their board. Their board is different than my board and your board, but we don't get paid to evaluate NFL talent. lol

That secondary is going to be deep, the defense has the potential to be nasty. Stacked up front, stacked on the back end - a recipe for a lot of turnovers. Do we need a LB? Maybe, but that position has been devalued here with the personnel groupings they run out there, and it hasn't seemed to have much of an impact on how good this defense has been.

Anyway, I thought we went into the draft needing OL & CB. Maybe they didn't draft in that order, or who you wanted, but that's what they have drafted - so far.

I know Fuller is getting old and expensive, so Forbes was a little bit of a need reach.
At 16 and who was left on the board, I liked CB Christian Gonzalez better, 4.38 speed and true corner. Gonzalez was rated by many as top 10 pick in this draft that dropped in someone’s lap at 17. That is great value even if you already have corners. Corners are a valuable commodity in the NFL you can trade later.
I fear Forbes at 166 pounds, in the nfl could be become a “not fast enough to be a corner and not big enough to be a safety.
He is slot CB picked at 17. He better become the best slot corner ever.

You m'fers need to chill out. We got Wylie in the off-season. Can still pick up players in the later rounds and there will likely be a second round of free agency after the draft.

At the end if the day, this team's strength is the defense. And I don't mind adding playmakers to our secondary.

You can add talent to the online, but better play calling, commitment to the run, and hopefully improved Howell will help.

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My take is different than most on here I guess. First of all, the draft isn't over. We have five more picks.

They have picked solid players, and they happen to be at positions of need (DB / OL) - feels like they are following their board. Their board is different than my board and your board, but we don't get paid to evaluate NFL talent. lol

That secondary is going to be deep, the defense has the potential to be nasty. Stacked up front, stacked on the back end - a recipe for a lot of turnovers. Do we need a LB? Maybe, but that position has been devalued here with the personnel groupings they run out there, and it hasn't seemed to have much of an impact on how good this defense has been.

Anyway, I thought we went into the draft needing OL & CB. Maybe they didn't draft in that order, or who you wanted, but that's what they have drafted - so far.


Like I said Chief I have no problem with Martin or Stromberg. The problem is they could have taken them later - especially Stromberg. I feel like they reached on those two. I think also that a glaring problem with this defense has been the inability for our inside backers to cover opposing tight ends.

There is no person on Earth who can convince me that Martin was a better pick than Torrence in the second. Both positions of need. One keeps your quarterback upright. The draft is like triage and he took a patient with a broken leg over one with a head injury- both need to be seen, but clearly one needs to be seen sooner.

Emmanuel Forbes
CB Mississippi State

Jartavius Martin
CB Illinois

Ricky Stromberg
OC Arkansas

Blake Freeland
OT BYU

SirVocea Dennis
LB Pittsburgh

Payne Durham
TE Purdue

Atonio Mafi
OG UCLA

Keaton Mitchell
RB East Carolina

My take is different than most on here I guess. First of all, the draft isn't over. We have five more picks.

Agreed, while I'd have taken Mauch in the 2nd instead, and probably Blackmon or Latu in the 3rd, I'm not an NFL GM, so its just my opinion. We had need in the secondary and OL, and they drafted DBs and a C. Good/best picks? We'll only know in time but I don't see them as bad picks based on what's known of them.

Question is, what now? 5 picks left, so what do we do with those? For me we have to target TE and LB, but apart from that has to be BPA. Toney is likely gone (suspended indefinitely) and CY is a ? so an edge rusher makes sense, if only for depth.

Like I said Chief I have no problem with Martin or Stromberg. The problem is they could have taken them later - especially Stromberg. I feel like they reached on those two. I think also that a glaring problem with this defense has been the inability for our inside backers to cover opposing tight ends.

There is no person on Earth who can convince me that Martin was a better pick than Torrence in the second. Both positions of need. One keeps your quarterback upright. The draft is like triage and he took a patient with a broken leg over one with a head injury- both need to be seen, but clearly one needs to be seen sooner.

Later when? You can't predict when these guys are going. If they liked him, they liked him - and they took him when they had the opportunity. Maybe they didn't like Torrance or the other O-linemen that were available when they picked Martin. For them, for the fit, for projecting the roster this year and in the future, he was the better pick.

I just think it's funny with the instant grades, second guesses, and what-ifs every year. Suddenly now Mathis was a bad pick (too bad he got hurt)...oh yea, J Dotson and BRob were reaches too. Remember that?

Just like Ruh said - we picked up Wylie in the off-season. We also picked up Gates. There are still good players left to be drafted, and there are still good free agent offensive linemen available (right now), and more to be had when players start getting cut.

For me, this offseason is shaping up pretty good so far - in free agency, the draft, new coaches...the sale...all of it.