Presidential Race 2024

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Giantone
11-05-2024, 05:58 AM
Why do you care about some pro-war, bitter Karens, over the majority of military voters:

Military veterans remain a Republican group, backing Trump over Harris by wide margin

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/30/military-veterans-remain-a-republican-group-backing-trump-over-harris-by-wide-margin/

About six-in-ten registered voters who say they have served in the U.S. military or military reserves (61%) support former President Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election, while 37% back Vice President Kamala Harris, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted in early September.

He's an angry ex-GF that also gets paid huge money for government contracts that he clearly benefits more from if Harris is president:

John Kelly, Trump’s ex-chief of staff, joins board of firm running America’s biggest child migrant facility

https://globalnews.ca/news/5239271/john-kelly-board-child-migrant-detention/

And you can call me MAGA or MAGA'ish all you want, I have said multiple times that I'm not voting for him. But I'm not going to listen to all of this non-sense that Harris is anything less than a horrendous candidate. There is just no way you can watch any interview of hers where there is no teleprompter, where you want her leading the free-world. There just isn't. It's just hating Trump. Cut off your nose to spite your face.


https://news.yahoo.com/news/claim-trump-said-only-suckers-210300315.html

About That Claim Trump Said 'Only Suckers Went to Vietnam'

Believe it or not but there is this..................
Gen. John Kelly, who was Trump's chief of staff when the alleged comments were made, confirmed that Trump did call American troops "losers" and "suckers." However, it was unclear whether he witnessed the comments firsthand or heard about them from someone else, or from news reports. Trump and his allies denied the accusations, though they have not responded to the above anecdote cited in this October 2024 story.

Per the October 2024 Atlantic story, former Trump administration officials including Kelly shared stories of Trump's admiration for autocrats like Adolf Hitler, and his past comments on the military. According to the book, "The Divider: Trump in the White House" Trump asked his then-chief of staff, Kelly "Why can't you be like the German generals?" Kelly told Trump the German generals "tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off." But Trump responded, "No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him."

Kelly gave The Atlantic additional details about the above exchange:

[Kelly] told me that when Trump raised the subject of "German generals," Kelly responded by asking, "'Do you mean Bismarck's generals?'" He went on: "I mean, I knew he didn't know who Bismarck was, or about the Franco-Prussian War. I said, 'Do you mean the kaiser's generals? Surely you can't mean Hitler's generals? And he said, 'Yeah, yeah, Hitler's generals.' I explained to him that Rommel had to commit suicide after taking part in a plot against Hitler." Kelly told me Trump was not acquainted with Rommel.

As we have reported before, Trump received four student deferments, then was disqualified from serving except in a time of war or national emergency after a medical examination found he had bone spurs in both heels. We confirmed Trump's deferment history via Selective Service records obtained from the U.S. National Archives by The Smoking Gun in 2011.

nonniey
11-05-2024, 09:14 AM
So how long are the lines. I wouldn't know as I vote by mail (I have never voted any other way).

mredskins
11-05-2024, 09:19 AM
So how long are the lines. I wouldn't know as I vote by mail (I have never voted any other way).

i went at 6:45, i was out of the building just before 8

there was some just getting started down time at 7 that contributed to the delay

Chico23231
11-27-2024, 09:47 AM
Kamala said she raised 1.5 billion on a call with dnc fund raising. Her campaign ended in debt and is trying to still raise money after losing.

Trump raised 380-400 million.

Chico23231
11-27-2024, 10:18 AM
Going back and re-reading, Walz was a terrible pick as VP…I thought that was evident at the time, but a lot of defenders here.

The Never Trump movement made a lot of money and delivered nothing. Will the democrats continue to embrace the big paycheck chasing Bill Kristol, Steve Schmidt, Rick Wilson, Tom Nichols, Liz Chaney, etc? These guys are making a fortune off the Dems…I gotta salute them for that. And in a Democratic world of identity politics, they give large space to white, old boomers….thats what makes me giggle.

Harris wasn’t a good candidate, she hid from her positions and American people could see it. The media tried their best to dress her up with overwhelming positive coverage and her large rich, elitist Democrat base gave her 1.5 billion

The fact Democrats couldn’t censor social media coverage like they did in 2020 was a big impact as well.

BaltimoreSkins
11-27-2024, 11:42 AM
Kamala said she raised 1.5 billion on a call with dnc fund raising. Her campaign ended in debt and is trying to still raise money after losing.

Trump raised 380-400 million.

Completely pathetic. TBH both amounts of money are absurdly disgusting and just validates that our country is for the rich and corporations and not us.

In regards to your last post I am not sure I get the hate on Walz I think the biggest flaw they did with him is really not focus on his progressive accomplishments that are incredibly popular regardless of voter registration.

Things like:

Increasing pre-k access, food for breakfast and lunch for students, increased funding for state police, red flag laws and back ground checks, paid leave and paid sick time for all workers and banning non compete agreements, decreased taxes on seniors and middle class and cut prescription drug prices.

All of those have bipartisan support and hugely popular but instead the Harris campaign muzzled him on these issues and he had to speak about Harris' pro corporate agenda which was an epic failure.

Chico23231
11-27-2024, 11:55 AM
Completely pathetic. TBH both amounts of money are absurdly disgusting and just validates that our country is for the rich and corporations and not us.

In regards to your last post I am not sure I get the hate on Walz I think the biggest flaw they did with him is really not focus on his progressive accomplishments that are incredibly popular regardless of voter registration.

Things like:

Increasing pre-k access, food for breakfast and lunch for students, increased funding for state police, red flag laws and back ground checks, paid leave and paid sick time for all workers and banning non compete agreements, decreased taxes on seniors and middle class and cut prescription drug prices.

All of those have bipartisan support and hugely popular but instead the Harris campaign muzzled him on these issues and he had to speak about Harris' pro corporate agenda which was an epic failure.

Baltimore I get that, but the insane positions will be the fodder highlighted to independents. Also the attempts to make him more masculine and to speak to men didn’t work and seemed unnatural/forced….his military service was a detriment. Plus his mannerisms made him appear gay.

The debate was a debacle vs Vance.

Also listen to James Carville here:

If I were running a 2028 campaign and I had some little snot-nosed 23-year-old saying, ‘I’m going to resign if you do this,’ not only would I fire that motherf---er on the spot, I would find out who hired them and fire that person on the spot!" he added. "I’m really not interested in your uninformed, stupid, jacka-- opinion as to whether to go on Joe Rogan or not."


I don’t get why the democrats put up with this nonsense? This happens on Capitol Hill as well with democrat staff.

Look, where I work, we don’t put up with this from 20 years olds. We don’t, you will not get hired or you will not advance period. The big thing we do is move them into spots if we can’t fire them outright

nonniey
11-27-2024, 02:31 PM
Completely pathetic. TBH both amounts of money are absurdly disgusting and just validates that our country is for the rich and corporations and not us.

In regards to your last post I am not sure I get the hate on Walz I think the biggest flaw they did with him is really not focus on his progressive accomplishments that are incredibly popular regardless of voter registration.

Things like:

Increasing pre-k access, food for breakfast and lunch for students, increased funding for state police, red flag laws and back ground checks, paid leave and paid sick time for all workers and banning non compete agreements, decreased taxes on seniors and middle class and cut prescription drug prices.

All of those have bipartisan support and hugely popular but instead the Harris campaign muzzled him on these issues and he had to speak about Harris' pro corporate agenda which was an epic failure.

Walz was a terrible pick and I said so and explained why at the time she picked him (I said if she loses the Walz pick would be one reason). There were three things she could have done anyone of which would likely have moved 2pts to her direction (which may have been enough). She should not have picked Walz as she already was perceived as being too progressive. Picking Walz, who was even more progressive than her was a slap in the face to the anti-Trump conservative voters, a percentage of which then returned to Trump or sat out. Not distancing herself from Biden and failing to slap down the extreme woke were the other two opportunities she squandered.

Giantone
11-27-2024, 02:55 PM
Walz was a terrible pick and I said so and explained why at the time she picked him (I said if she loses the Walz pick would be one reason). There were three things she could have done anyone of which would likely have 2pts to her direction (which may have been enough). She should not have picked Walz as she already was perceived as being too progressive. Picking Walz, who was even more progressive than her was a slap in the face to the anti-Trump conservative voters, a percentage of which then returned to Trump or sat out. Not distancing herself from Biden and failing to slap down the extreme woke were the other two opportunities she squandered.

Walz wasn't the reason she lost. She actually did well considering she ran for 12 week campaign against someone who had been running for 4 years. I wanted Kelly myself but Walz wasn't the reason she lost.

MTK
11-27-2024, 03:09 PM
Baltimore I get that, but the insane positions will be the fodder highlighted to independents. Also the attempts to make him more masculine and to speak to men didn’t work and seemed unnatural/forced….his military service was a detriment. Plus his mannerisms made him appear gay.

The debate was a debacle vs Vance.

Also listen to James Carville here:

If I were running a 2028 campaign and I had some little snot-nosed 23-year-old saying, ‘I’m going to resign if you do this,’ not only would I fire that motherf---er on the spot, I would find out who hired them and fire that person on the spot!" he added. "I’m really not interested in your uninformed, stupid, jacka-- opinion as to whether to go on Joe Rogan or not."


I don’t get why the democrats put up with this nonsense? This happens on Capitol Hill as well with democrat staff.

Look, where I work, we don’t put up with this from 20 years olds. We don’t, you will not get hired or you will not advance period. The big thing we do is move them into spots if we can’t fire them outright

oh boy, if we were playing who's the gay guy Vance would win 10 out of 10 times vs Walz and what does it matter anyway

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