Presidential Race 2024

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sdskinsfan2001
10-17-2024, 12:12 AM
I liked Haley the best of those who ran but would have supported Desantis as well. I would not support Vance or any of the populists.

Thanks for responding. You're like the Dos Equis man or something. I don't see lot of similarities between Haley and DeSantis personally, so that's an interesting split. Doesn't mean they don't exist though.

Bonus question: How would you describe a populist?

Turnabout is fair play, I'll answer any 3 questions, if you want to ask, by Friday afternoon.

Giantone
10-17-2024, 06:55 AM
But you also want to end the Electoral College. You must be very conflicted. Because you can't want to save our Republic but also want to terminate one of the few things that actually saves it.

yes I do and here is an example why...........

https://news.yahoo.com/news/electoral-college-incinerate-half-million-083351234.html

Electoral College will incinerate a half-million Kansas votes for Kamala. That’s a problem.

I agree everyone's vote should count, the electoral College takes that away

sdskinsfan2001
10-17-2024, 09:15 AM
yes I do and here is an example why...........

https://news.yahoo.com/news/electoral-college-incinerate-half-million-083351234.html

Electoral College will incinerate a half-million Kansas votes for Kamala. That’s a problem.

I agree everyone's vote should count, the electoral College takes that away

Trump won 56% of the popular vote in Kansas in 2020. So to "save" the above votes you would then need to "incinerate" the majority of Kansas votes. The Electoral College is the only thing that gives Kansas as a state any voice at all.

Giantone
10-17-2024, 01:15 PM
Trump won 56% of the popular vote in Kansas in 2020. So to "save" the above votes you would then need to "incinerate" the majority of Kansas votes. The Electoral College is the only thing that gives Kansas as a state any voice at all.

trump has never won a popular vote election, ever. Kansa voters vote should count the same as mine no more no less.

nonniey
10-17-2024, 08:57 PM
Thanks for responding. You're like the Dos Equis man or something. I don't see lot of similarities between Haley and DeSantis personally, so that's an interesting split. Doesn't mean they don't exist though.

Bonus question: How would you describe a populist?

Turnabout is fair play, I'll answer any 3 questions, if you want to ask, by Friday afternoon.

Populists use divisive them versus us tactics, resort to making promises to address acute or short term needs of a group of people (which is why populists are usually Dems in the US) that often are detrimental to the long term interests of those same people and the country as a whole. This MAGA version is isolationist, xenophobic nationalist, anti-immigration (problem is it includes legal immigration), is opposed to free trade and opposed to entitlement reform for entitlements benefiting to their group (In this case social security).

nonniey
10-17-2024, 09:13 PM
trump has never won a popular vote election, ever. Kansa voters vote should count the same as mine no more no less.

I used to know the argument for the Electoral College which was so good it convinced a liberal friend of mine to change his mind and drop his opposition to it. But that was 7 years ago and frankly I have CRS (Can't remember shit). Since it won't be changed, ever, no point in actually arguing about it here or anywhere.

Giantone
10-18-2024, 07:50 PM
LOL................wow!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CZFbCTc2LM

8: 39 is when it gets good.

Giantone
10-19-2024, 09:24 AM
Harris did well in the combative FOX interview. She proved Her administration will be different then Biden's and she sure as hell answered question unlike trump when she was allowed to answer them. Face it to the Harris deniers She is more Presidential then trump or any other Candidate out their right now.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/16/us/politics/kamala-harris-fox-news-interview.html

Would trump get the same treatment from FOX?

Giantone
10-19-2024, 10:37 AM
The Pro trump here and even the I'm not for trump trumpers would bitch and Biden's age and his rally's if there was a misstep or flubbed line. My question to them is why does trump not get the same treatment from the right wing nuts?


This is an Opinion piece I agree with.

from just this week alone!

https://news.yahoo.com/news/opinion-trump-said-many-stupid-080339071.html

Trump started off the week at a town hall in Pennsylvania moderated by South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem. Early on in the night, two supporters needed medical personnel. His response?

Trump told his crew to play the music "nice and loud".

Then, for 39 minutes, Trump swayed while his favorite songs played. The playlist included “Nothing Compares 2 U” by Sinead O’Connor, “Y.M.C.A.” by Village People and “It’s a Man’s Man’s Man’s World” by James Brown. He walked off the stage to “November Rain” by Guns N’ Roses. “Memory” from the musical “Cats” rounded out the night.

At 78, Trump would be the oldest president in our nation’s history – something that becomes more apparent every day. He doesn’t seem to think it’s an issue.


The next day, when talking about his Supreme Court nominees with Bloomberg at the Economic Club of Chicago, Trump made a comment about the age of his appointees.

“You tend to put them in young,” Trump said. “Only stupid people put old."

Trump jokes about family of Georgia woman who died because of abortion ban
Right before a Fox News town hall in Georgia, he joked about the family of Amber Thurman, a 28-year-old woman who died after doctors delayed necessary care due to the state's six-week abortion ban. To Trump, that's an acceptable punchline.

"Amber Thurman’s family have come out on a press call, and they’re doing what’s called a prebuttal to our town hall right now," Fox News host Harris Faulkner told Trump before the event began.

"Oh, that’s nice," he said. “We’ll get better ratings, I promise.”
It shouldn't have to be said, but death should never be a joke.
It's especially vile when you remember that the overturning of Roe v. Wade happened because of Trump − something he has bragged about on the campaign trail.

He has repeatedly tried to obscure his record on abortion rights. At the same Fox News town hall, that extended to in vitro fertilization, a practice that has come into question in the post-Roe era.

“I’m the father of IVF, so I want to hear this question,” Trump said when asked about the procedure. No, no one is really sure what he means by that.

Trump previously expressed support for in vitro fertilization in the wake of the Alabama Supreme Court decision that threatened it. The Republican Party could do something about it, but no: A bill to protect access to the procedure is stalled in Congress.

Trump continues spewing lies and hate about immigrants
During his interview with Bloomberg Editor-in-Chief John Micklethwait, Trump doubled down on his claim that a Venezuelan gang has taken over an apartment complex in Aurora, Colorado, despite the mayor calling this story “grossly exaggerated.”
Then, on Wednesday, he would not take back his false claims about Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio, eating pets when asked about it during a town hall for Latino voters hosted by Univision.

“I was just saying what was reported, that's been reported – and eating other things too, that they're not supposed to be,” Trump said.

These stories are harmful to the communities they purport to be about. It is shameful that Trump and his running mate, Sen. JD Vance of Ohio, refuse to apologize for spreading these falsehoods.

No matter where Trump goes, he says something awful. We as a country deserve better than an overgrown, spoiled oligarch who can't stop spouting hate.



This man is a moron, how smart intelligent people can follow this moron is a mystery , these people are idiots it is a cult, a dangerous one.

Giantone
10-20-2024, 07:15 PM
WTF is wrong with this guy?????


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