Presidential Race 2024

They could roll ol Joe out there weekend at Bernie’s style and there’s still zero chance I’d vote for a convicted felon. I mean come on this isn’t hard folks. Trump is trash and basically everything he said was a total fucking lie.

Both sides should agree to have both candidates step down right now.

These fact checks are of course horseshit Mooby. But I’d expect nothing else…

yes Governor Northam supported killing baby up to moment of birth. Stop trying to excuse it.

Yes Biden supports open borders which he told illegals to surge to the border when he became to president during the primary. Highes months on record: https://apnews.com/article/immigration-border-crossings-mexico-biden-18ac91ef502e0c5433f74de6cc629b32.

His border policy is a catastrophe, stop excusing it. And Trump border crossings were at a 40 year lows…fact

Yes Biden had more Covid deaths than Trump. And did not have tests available during his major surge winter after he took office. Nothing Biden did in Covid stopped the Covid deaths.

Seriously bringing up 1953 stat on unemployment…yes these are clearly bias fact chats.

In modern unemployment, yes Trump saw historic numbers and brought the unemployment number for Blacks to the lowest point ever.

Your fact checks are biased against Trump and negligent misleading, conveniently leaves outs facts that support Trumps record

Trump lead the Middle East with the Abraham accords and crushed the isis war…Joe has lead the Middle East into by appeasing Iran, allowing them to support Hamas Oct 7 and the Houthis attacks on the Red Sea. The Ukraine war happened because Biden was weak on Russia and NATO


We can talk failed energy policy, inflation, record high rent and food prices, Gen Z being priced out of buying there first house…

We can talk Jews being attacked in the streets of LA and on college campuses with antisemitism not seen in my lifetime. These aren’t rednecks committing the acts but college professors, liberals in democrat run cities. And they allow it to happen


Mooby, can you seriously name a policy under Biden that has worked? Is your opinion the Biden record is stronger than Trumps record in their Presidency?

I have no issue with most of what you posted above.

However this one ".And Trump border crossings were at a 40 year lows…fact." as true as it is, completely distorts the effectiveness of Trump's policy. World wide migration being shut down due to COVID was the cause, not border policy. You need to look at 2017-2019 to see if Trump's border policies were effective. They weren't and significantly so as illegal migration steadily increased in those years. Yes, Trump was better than Biden on border control as Biden outright opened them, but he was worse than his predecessors.

They could roll ol Joe out there weekend at Bernie’s style and there’s still zero chance I’d vote for a convicted felon. I mean come on this isn’t hard folks. Trump is trash and basically everything he said was a total fucking lie.

Both sides should agree to have both candidates step down right now.

People saying Biden should step out of the race, then should support invoking the 25th amendment today.

People saying Biden should step out of the race, then should support invoking the 25th amendment today.

Yes he should step down. And heck, yeah I agree about the 25th amendment too. That said if they replace him with a progressive Trump would still probably win. The Dems need to show they are refuting the far left policies that they are associated with - ie do a Sister Solja moment. Are the Dems willing to admit their stances in the cultural wars went too far and no longer align with the majority of the population (this is a major reason why minority support is weakening)? Are they willing to admit their Inflation Reduction Act actually accelerated inflation? Are they willing to admit the far left gained control of border policy essentially creating an open border? They need to replace Biden with someone that actually is in the center of American politics to have any chance at winning in November.

Options to stop Trump
1) Nominate a traditional conservative Republican opponent of Trump as their candidate.
- Romney, Haley, Cheney - chance of beating Trump probably close to 100%
2) Nominate a Republican moderate
- Hogan? Chance of beating Trump probably greater than 70%
3) Nominate a Dem Moderate
- Manchin, Sinema, Phillips - 50%
4) Nominate any other Dem - 35%
5) Keep Biden - less than 10%

Can't see them doing 1-3 under any circumstances.

I look at it this way we’re voting for an administration not just the candidate, and since Trump absolutely does not surround himself with the best people despite what he says, it’s an easy choice. Why is a felon even allowed to run anyway? Need to get something on the books about that.

Have you met Trump? Actually have you met highly successful men from up from Jersey, NYC, Ct, Boston? Many talk in the same vernacular…it’s annoying as fuck and rubs people the wrong way.” The best, the greatest”…that’s how they speak. .


That is absolute BS, you know nothing of anyone from New Jersey or New York or successful men.

Joe Biden has dementia and is a fucking liar. Let's not all act like he tells only the truth just struggles mentally.

Trump is a manchild and a liar.

No matter who you vote for, you're getting an ass combo.

Joe Biden has dementia and is a fucking liar. Let's not all act like he tells only the truth just struggles mentally.

Trump is a manchild and a liar.

No matter who you vote for, you're getting an ass combo.

Biden comes felony free at least, and he doesn’t surround himself with people who end up in jail

Biden comes felony free at least, and he doesn’t surround himself with people who end up in jail

Yeah, he just raises them instead.

Also, let's not act like if Trump was found innocent, you might've voted for him. It's just an easy line to throw in. The felonies over some slutbag has zero effect on why democrats won't vote for him. And frankly, it's really the least important reasons to not vote for him. There are many many better reasons.

Easy line to throw in? Ok I guess I just like my presidents felony free. Call me fussy that I don’t want a guy with no class, morals, or ethics running the free world. I definitely would have never voted for a guy like Trump felonies or not, doesn’t take a genius to see he’s a bad hombre/piece of shit.