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punch it in 03-02-2023, 04:45 PM My problem with your dead set opinion is that you are basically saying anything that Dan Snyder has and is doing doesn't affect the football operations.
You can spin it any way you want it, but that's what you are basically saying.
I'm pretty sure Brian Daboll, Doug Pedersen, or Dan Campbell haven't had to deal with the shit that Ron has to deal every single day from Snyder.
Again, plenty of criticism can be made of Ron, but I just think it is a bit ridiculous to ignore the massive up hill battle he has with this f*cking owner.
Hell, except for Spurrier and Zorn, I think any other coach should be given somewhat of a pass because of the shit they dealt with with Snyder.
Im not spinning anything Ruh. I do not think Rivera is a good HC.
There are a lot of fans who do not think Ron is a good HC, and trust me when I tell you that what I am NOT saying is that Dan Snyder doesn’t affect football operations. That is silly.
It is possible to have a terrible owner and a bad HC. I mean I don’t think Rons phone was blowing up when he got fired in Carolina because why in the hell would you choose Dan fucking Snyder to work for if you had options.
Listen man if you think Ron is the guy to lead this team that is fine. Im a little curious what it is about him that you like. I can’t really think of anything the guy does well as a HC but thats just me. No biggie.
Im not spinning anything Ruh. I do not think Rivera is a good HC.
There are a lot of fans who do not think Ron is a good HC, and trust me when I tell you that what I am NOT saying is that Dan Snyder doesn’t affect football operations. That is silly.
It is possible to have a terrible owner and a bad HC. I mean I don’t think Rons phone was blowing up when he got fired in Carolina because why in the hell would you choose Dan fucking Snyder to work for if you had options.
Listen man if you think Ron is the guy to lead this team that is fine. Im a little curious what it is about him that you like. I can’t really think of anything the guy does well as a HC but thats just me. No biggie.
He does a very good impression of Mount Rushmore as we get another delay of game penalty.
rocnrik 03-03-2023, 08:05 AM Ron has done a good job in general with all the crap he has had to deal with … you can’t grade him fair without taking that into consideration.. yes he has made some gaffs and mistakes .. but let’s give him credit also on the positive stuff .. His worse decision in my opinion is the Wentz debacle ( signing him and then starting him..but remember that Taylor also went to Ron and told him to start Wentz… that was a head scratcher) on a scale from 1-10 with 10 being the best .. Ron is in the 5 range .. his strength seems to be in a environment of chaos he somehow has a calming effect as the leader .. my opinion only
skinsfan69 03-03-2023, 08:13 AM Since Ron has been here he's been left alone. Dan hasn't been meddling. Ron has had final say on everything. It's in his contract and Dan has held up his end by not getting in the way.
Not really sure we could have gotten any better of a coach. Under the circumstances he's been as good as expected. He's not a good game day coach but is probably a really good motivator. Haven't really seen the team quit under him. The players for the most part seem to like him.
EdmundDorf 03-03-2023, 09:16 AM Ron has done a good job in general with all the crap he has had to deal with … you can’t grade him fair without taking that into consideration.. yes he has made some gaffs and mistakes .. but let’s give him credit also on the positive stuff .. His worse decision in my opinion is the Wentz debacle ( signing him and then starting him..but remember that Taylor also went to Ron and told him to start Wentz… that was a head scratcher) on a scale from 1-10 with 10 being the best .. Ron is in the 5 range .. his strength seems to be in a environment of chaos he somehow has a calming effect as the leader .. my opinion only
The Taylor telling Ron thing was about Howell starting in the last game, not Wentz in the prior game. I am not sure that the start Howell suggestion wasn't in part because he was mad at Ron for benching him for Wentz in the previous game, but Heinicke doesn't strike me as being that petty
For me, starting Wentz wasn't so much the problem as being slow to recognise that Wentz needed to be benched in the second quarter of the Cleveland game while it was still in reach.
My biggest gripe about Ron is how slow he is to acknowledge and act on some things that seem to be blindingly obvious to most everyone else. Multiple games seem to ebb away before something is fixed and the season is just not long enough for that.
He acted so fast in firing Turner at the end of the season that he must have been considering it for a few weeks prior, in which case, with the playoffs on the line why wasn't someone else, Zampese maybe, given play calling duties.
mredskins 03-03-2023, 10:46 AM The Taylor telling Ron thing was about Howell starting in the last game, not Wentz in the prior game. I am not sure that the start Howell suggestion wasn't in part because he was mad at Ron for benching him for Wentz in the previous game, but Heinicke doesn't strike me as being that petty
For me, starting Wentz wasn't so much the problem as being slow to recognise that Wentz needed to be benched in the second quarter of the Cleveland game while it was still in reach.
My biggest gripe about Ron is how slow he is to acknowledge and act on some things that seem to be blindingly obvious to most everyone else. Multiple games seem to ebb away before something is fixed and the season is just not long enough for that.
He acted so fast in firing Turner at the end of the season that he must have been considering it for a few weeks prior, in which case, with the playoffs on the line why wasn't someone else, Zampese maybe, given play calling duties.
Ron is a leader of men , you can’t just keep flipping back and fourth everyone will lose trust in you and be afraid to make mistakes.
It was Turners responsibility to run the offense, he was given all the opportunities afforded to him. If he had made the playoffs he still be here, he didn’t thus he was fired.
EdmundDorf 03-03-2023, 03:07 PM John Keim on Twitter
Washington signed former Chiefs WR Marcus Kemp. Primarily a Special teams player. Gives Bieniemy someone in the room familiar with the O.
Ben Standig on Twitter
Marcus Kemp and Cam Sims
Similarities
* Both are 27
* Kemp 6'4", Sims 6'5"
* Both play WR but contribute mostly on special teams
Differences
* Kemp played for Bieniemy in KC. Sims did not
* Kemp is under contract with the Commanders. Sims is not.
Jeremy Reaves on Twitter
Bruh a dog on teams
skinsfaninok 03-03-2023, 04:00 PM JLC on NFL XM RADIO "Lamar to Washington is starting to pick up steam at the combine"
https://twitter.com/YouWager_FF/status/1631737953281081356?s=20
Chico23231 03-03-2023, 04:42 PM JLC on NFL XM RADIO "Lamar to Washington is starting to pick up steam at the combine"
https://twitter.com/YouWager_FF/status/1631737953281081356?s=20
Jason La Canfora? Him and Mike florio might be the worst sources in the NFL
Chief X_Phackter 03-03-2023, 04:46 PM Ron has done a good job in general with all the crap he has had to deal with … you can’t grade him fair without taking that into consideration.. yes he has made some gaffs and mistakes .. but let’s give him credit also on the positive stuff .. His worse decision in my opinion is the Wentz debacle ( signing him and then starting him..but remember that Taylor also went to Ron and told him to start Wentz… that was a head scratcher) on a scale from 1-10 with 10 being the best .. Ron is in the 5 range .. his strength seems to be in a environment of chaos he somehow has a calming effect as the leader .. my opinion only
Trading for Wentz was by far the biggest mistake. It hamstrung the ability to upgrade the rest of the roster, taking on that contract. That being said, I don't fault RR for trying something at the QB position. He couldn't just go with Taylor Heinicke - although in hindsight that may have been the better move. The point is, he knew he needed to upgrade the QB position. Wentz was a last resort I'm sure. There was a chance it could have worked out, but it didn't. At least he drafted a QB in Howell and had an out with Wentz's contract.
Not bringing in a more experienced OC was mistake #2. I think the Turner experiment was wrong. He's not his Dad. Maybe he'll end up being a good OC someday, but he just couldn't get out of his own way here, and the suspect OL and QB play was not his friend.
Beyond that, I have no issues with RR. The record doesn't necessarily reflect the coach he is in my opinion. He's done the best he can with the resources he has available to him, which as we are finding out more and more - are and have been limited. Has he made mistakes, sure. The two above are the most glaring, but he's made some in-game mistakes, too. But people on here act like no other coaches - even really good ones - make mistakes with challenges and timeouts, and the like... Or that he's the only 'stoic' head coach roaming the sidelines. The man's been through a lot. I personally appreciate that he is even-keeled.
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