Commanders 2023 Free Agency Thread

I think the reports indicating we are 'out' on LJ are true, even though you can't believe anything this time of year, so this is really a moot conversation. He definitely wouldn't make this team worse, but we need more than a QB right now, and signing him AND giving up two first round picks would prohibit us from improving other areas of need.

Howell, veteran, mid/late round draft pick is where I'm landing as well.

Lamar Jackson is without a doubt a Top 10 NFL QB. But for any team that isn't Baltimore, there is crazy risks:

1. Will he even play 75% of the games?
2. How much cap space will he take?
3. How many picks will it take?
4. Will he fit in on a new team and new offense? Will his new weapons mesh around him?

There are risks with every QB, but there have been two QBs (Watson and Cousins) with plenty of risks and similar or less success that have gotten fully guaranteed deals.

I think Lamar is stupid for not having an agent though.

There are risks with every QB, but there have been two QBs (Watson and Cousins) with plenty of risks and similar or less success that have gotten fully guaranteed deals.

I think Lamar is stupid for not having an agent though.

The Watson deal was absolutely absurd, Cleveland was NUTS to do it.

As for Cousins, they just didn't think he was that good. He did not have injury history or concerns at all.

Lamar Jackson is a injury waiting to happen. He is a far undersized running QB with a history of injury problems. AND to make it worse, quite a few felt he could play just fine last year and chose not to to protect his FA status this year. I don't any part of any of those issues.

The Watson deal was absolutely absurd, Cleveland was NUTS to do it.

As for Cousins, they just didn't think he was that good. He did not have injury history or concerns at all.

Lamar Jackson is a injury waiting to happen. He is a far undersized running QB with a history of injury problems. AND to make it worse, quite a few felt he could play just fine last year and chose not to to protect his FA status this year. I don't any part of any of those issues.

In terms of the Watson, new deals always set a precedence for future deals. Regardless of what people think about the deal, it happened and I don't blame for Lamar's camp from bringing this up.

Like Watson, Cousins had some success, but he still got a fully guaranteed deal. Sure it wasn't a $230 mil deal, but the important part is that it was fully guaranteed. You now have two QBs that have gotten fully guaranteed deals. The league cannot ignore that.

Finally, I feel like the fans are being fed all of these excuses about why he shouldn't get paid, and the fans are buying it.

The Ravens have gone 43-23 since 2019 when Lamar became the starting QB and have been to the playoffs 3 times during that period. I would KILL for our team to have that run during that period of time.

I don't necessarily thing Lamar should get $230 mil guaranteed, but it is utterly ridiculous that "no team" is interested. Meanwhile Aaron Rodgers is old as f*ck, going all mental and doing shrooms in the offseason, and he's about to get traded to the Jets and get a ton of money.

In terms of the Watson, new deals always set a precedence for future deals. Regardless of what people think about the deal, it happened and I don't blame for Lamar's camp from bringing this up.

Like Watson, Cousins had some success, but he still got a fully guaranteed deal. Sure it wasn't a $230 mil deal, but the important part is that it was fully guaranteed. You now have two QBs that have gotten fully guaranteed deals. The league cannot ignore that.

Finally, I feel like the fans are being fed all of these excuses about why he shouldn't get paid, and the fans are buying it.

The Ravens have gone 43-23 since 2019 when Lamar became the starting QB and have been to the playoffs 3 times during that period. I would KILL for our team to have that run during that period of time.

I don't necessarily thing Lamar should get $230 mil guaranteed, but it is utterly ridiculous that "no team" is interested. Meanwhile Aaron Rodgers is old as f*ck, going all mental and doing shrooms in the offseason, and he's about to get traded to the Jets and get a ton of money.

I hear you . . . but he is a undersized running qb that is already missing a lot of games. I feel strongly that he will miss a lot more games and progressively more games due to being and undersized running QB. Not sure he'll make it through a 5 year contact. and if the does he'll miss 3 of those years due to injury.

I don’t see how 6’2” 212 is undersized when our projected starter is 6’1” 220. Both of his injuries came in the pocket passing and planting not running so I am not buying he will miss games due to running. My biggest concern is his regression passing. He used to be quietly a top 10 passer. Can he get that back?

I don’t see how 6’2” 212 is undersized when our projected starter is 6’1” 220. Both of his injuries came in the pocket passing and planting not running so I am not buying he will miss games due to running. My biggest concern is his regression passing. He used to be quietly a top 10 passer. Can he get that back?Yeah, I don't get the whole "undersized" argument.

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RBs tend to be like 5'9" and 230lb, and SH is on the small size for QBs. (mannings 6'4-5" and 220-230 for example).

Not that that's the be-all end-all (ie drew brees 6'0" 210).

Howell is short and stalky, like Russell Wilson. Jackson is taller and skinnier. A lot less meat on the bones than Howell.

I don’t see how 6’2” 212 is undersized when our projected starter is 6’1” 220. Both of his injuries came in the pocket passing and planting not running so I am not buying he will miss games due to running. My biggest concern is his regression passing. He used to be quietly a top 10 passer. Can he get that back?

Sam Howell is undersized too! But not wanting $50 million a year guaranteed. Plus he is not a running QB. Also while he is short, he is not frail at all, he has a very thick muscular lower body that looks to be able to withstand a bit more punishment.