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If you're NY what do you do? Let Jones walk and basically start over with a rookie or go with a journeyman who at best will keep you around .500?

I'd rather take my chances with Jones and hope he continues to develop and ascend.

We let Cousins go and we've been floundering ever since.

This is the conundrum the Giants have, add in Barkley and Williams plus others and you have to add other pieces' like a #1 receiver and a few OL men to spend money on. IMO you sign Jones to a team friendly contract of 30/32 mill no more then 4 years 75-80 guaranteed, that still puts Jones around #16 on the QB earnings list of QB's. You release Golladay June 1st giving you 13.5 more in cap (7mill dead cap) right there is your Barkley money leaving you around 32 million to do all the others which I will tell you is almost 24 million more then they had last year for cap space. Cap is projected to go up in 2024 almost 23 million per team.(I think)

I saw the NFL inductees for the 2023 HOF class. Feel like it was a bit watered down. IDK if I would consider Barber, Zach Thomas, DeMarcus Ware as some of the best to ever play. They were certainly good for their time but I don't even think they were the best at the time they played.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/watch-pro-football-hall-of-fame-class-of-2023-inductees-get-emotional-surprise-election-news-from-nfl-legends/#:~:text=On%20Friday%20night%2C%20the%20NFL,all%20 be%20immortalized%20in%20Canton.

Ian Rapoport of NFL Network wrote a story about how former Denver Broncos head coach Vic Fangio signed a two week contract to help the Philadelphia Eagles prepare for the Kansas City Chiefs in Super Bowl LVII.

That didn't go well.

Chiefs only had two games all year where they scored at least 38 points.
Eagles gave up an average of 20 points per game all year until last night.
Eagles averaged over four sacks per game - with only one game where they didn't have a sack. They had zero sacks against a hobbled PM last night.

Way to go Vic. Thanks for the help.

Ian Rapoport of NFL Network wrote a story about how former Denver Broncos head coach Vic Fangio signed a two week contract to help the Philadelphia Eagles prepare for the Kansas City Chiefs in Super Bowl LVII.

That didn't go well.

Chiefs only had two games all year where they scored at least 38 points.
Eagles gave up an average of 20 points per game all year until last night.
Eagles averaged over four sacks per game - with only one game where they didn't have a sack. They had zero sacks against a hobbled PM last night.

Way to go Vic. Thanks for the help.


In the Super Bowl stats go out the window and the best players generally win.

Mahomes is the best player in football right now.


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In the Super Bowl stats go out the window and the best players generally win.

Mahomes is the best player in football right now.


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Why do stats go out the window? I'm not sure I agree with that.

I agree that Mahomes is arguably the best player in football, but my point was that it doesn't appear that Vic helped them all that much. Their D got embarrassed, in the 2nd half especially.

They are somewhat making fun of the whole thing here in Denver, with Fangio being the Broncos HC from 2019-2021, saying that the Eagles defense looked eerily similar to the Bronco's defense in his unsuccessful three year stint here. I didn't watch enough of the Eagles' games to know if they changed much of their defense for the Super Bowl. Maybe KC just exploited them because they can - and it would have happened with or without Vic's "help".

Either way I'm good with the result. KC now joins the Commanders as the only two teams to beat the Eagles this year - with Jalen Hurts as the QB.

Why do stats go out the window? I'm not sure I agree with that.

I agree that Mahomes is arguably the best player in football, but my point was that it doesn't appear that Vic helped them all that much. Their D got embarrassed, in the 2nd half especially.

They are somewhat making fun of the whole thing here in Denver, with Fangio being the Broncos HC from 2019-2021, saying that the Eagles defense looked eerily similar to the Bronco's defense in his unsuccessful three year stint here. I didn't watch enough of the Eagles' games to know if they changed much of their defense for the Super Bowl. Maybe KC just exploited them because they can - and it would have happened with or without Vic's "help".

Either way I'm good with the result. KC now joins the Commanders as the only two teams to beat the Eagles this year - with Jalen Hurts as the QB.


I’m talking about the “eagles best DL ever “
Stats where they had all those sacks this season but zero last night. Over the time of a 18 game schedule yes I’d make a bet based off stats and grades etc but for a Super Bowl?? I’m betting on the best QB every single time


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I don't know who crowned their DL the best DL ever, but what they were able to do all season long didn't translate to the biggest game of the year. I know Patrick and Andy had a lot to do with that, but makes me wonder how much they tried to change based on Fangio's consulting for this game, rather than just stick with what's been working.

Ill take a trip to the superbowl and i dont give a fuck how many points we score or give up in it. Hell ill take a trip to the second round with the same thought.

This is the conundrum the Giants have, add in Barkley and Williams plus others and you have to add other pieces' like a #1 receiver and a few OL men to spend money on. IMO you sign Jones to a team friendly contract of 30/32 mill no more then 4 years 75-80 guaranteed, that still puts Jones around #16 on the QB earnings list of QB's. You release Golladay June 1st giving you 13.5 more in cap (7mill dead cap) right there is your Barkley money leaving you around 32 million to do all the others which I will tell you is almost 24 million more then they had last year for cap space. Cap is projected to go up in 2024 almost 23 million per team.(I think)

Giants would be really dumb to give Barkley a big contract

Giants would be really dumb to give Barkley a big contract

MPO is around 12 for Barkley per for 3 years.