2023 Divisional Round Thread

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CrustyRedskin
01-23-2023, 11:28 AM
We can hash that crap out all summer. I'm just going to focus on laughing at the Cowboys today. 🤠

Chief X_Phackter
01-23-2023, 12:52 PM
Look at San Fran, investing in Purdy has them a game away. They didn’t quit looking after putting draft capital into Trey Lance.

You ALWAYS need to be looking.

I’d say let’s see what’s Howell got, but also keep your eyes on the draft

You make a solid point with that example.

I'm not opposed to drafting a QB. I think they should. And I don't care where he's drafted, as long as their evaluation of the QB is commensurate with where he is drafted.

Can't go into the 2023 season with all our eggs in the Sam Howell basket.

sdskinsfan2001
01-23-2023, 12:56 PM
Wentz is gone and Heinicke is a FA. Since Turner is gone, he likely isn't coming back either.

So by default, we're adding 2 more QB's. I don't think anyone that wants Howell to be the starter in 2023 has said we shouldn't draft another QB somewhere in this draft.

skinsfaninok
01-23-2023, 01:05 PM
Howell has way more talent than TH does and Wentz. I think we add a Vet for sure but unless we can some how land Rodgers or TB12 I'm good with Howell starting

punch it in
01-23-2023, 01:46 PM
You make a solid point with that example.

I'm not opposed to drafting a QB. I think they should. And I don't care where he's drafted, as long as their evaluation of the QB is commensurate with where he is drafted.

Can't go into the 2023 season with all our eggs in the Sam Howell basket.


Do u consider the last pick in the draft an investment ? It is about as minor investment as you can make. We will go into 2023 with three quarterbacks on our final roster and Sam will have to beat them out in camp to start. That is obvious. The question remains what will we invest in those other guys? Some people on this board (not you im just piggybacking on your post) are acting like we can just bring in some big time arms to fight for the job. Where are they coming from? I wish that when people say things like “ sam didn’t earn anything and needs to have competition “ they would elaborate. Are you wanting to give up draft picks to take a guy like Levis? Are you wanting to give up a ton of cash and whatever else for Carr? Are you wanting to reach on say Richardson in the first? Right now Sam is our best option. So if you are not in favor of giving up picks or cash or both for someone specific than where is this strong competition coming from? Andy fucking Dalton?

punch it in
01-23-2023, 01:51 PM
Wentz is gone and Heinicke is a FA. Since Turner is gone, he likely isn't coming back either.

So by default, we're adding 2 more QB's. I don't think anyone that wants Howell to be the starter in 2023 has said we shouldn't draft another QB somewhere in this draft.


Right, people are acting like we want Sam to be the only quarterback on the roster. Lol. Again be specific when you wine about Sam being the projected starter. What are you giving up to make it hard for him to win the job? We are not getting Rodgers for league minimum lol. We are not getting Into the top 5 in the draft for a future 6th round pick. Everyone wants the best quarterback possible. Nobody is saying the only answer is Howell. But if you want someone like Rodgers or a top 5 pick u r paying through the nose for it. There is no stud coming in here to take Sams job that we won’t have to mortgage our future for.

Chief X_Phackter
01-23-2023, 02:01 PM
Do u consider the last pick in the draft an investment ? It is about as minor investment as you can make. We will go into 2023 with three quarterbacks on our final roster and Sam will have to beat them out in camp to start. That is obvious. The question remains what will we invest in those other guys? Some people on this board (not you im just piggybacking on your post) are acting like we can just bring in some big time arms to fight for the job. Where are they coming from? I wish that when people say things like “ sam didn’t earn anything and needs to have competition “ they would elaborate. Are you wanting to give up draft picks to take a guy like Levis? Are you wanting to give up a ton of cash and whatever else for Carr? Are you wanting to reach on say Richardson in the first? Right now Sam is our best option. So if you are not in favor of giving up picks or cash or both for someone specific than where is this strong competition coming from? Andy fucking Dalton?

Personally, I do consider the last pick in the draft an investment, albeit minor as you said. Had SF picked any other available player, they likely wouldn't be playing in the NFC Championship next weekend. They took the pick serious, and drafted Purdy. They could have taken a chance and tried to pick him up after the draft, but they decided to invest the draft pick on him to ensure they got him.

There are so many scenarios and what-ifs that we can go through from here until the start of the season. For me, I really don't care where they get the competition. I'd rather not go after Carr, Garappolo, etc., and I don't really want to trade up to get a QB, but if they decide to take one of these courses of action - fine. Hope it works.

My hope is Sam is the guy, but I would like them to bring in a 'Brisett type guy' who they also like, and have a competition. Hopefully Sam wins and the Veteran QB will be his competent backup. I would also like them to draft a QB to develop for the future. I would rather fill some other holes with the earlier draft picks and pick a QB later, but ultimately I don't care where the QB is drafted as long as the value makes sense.

SunnySide
01-23-2023, 02:01 PM
I wish that when people say things like “ sam didn’t earn anything and needs to have competition “ they would elaborate. Are you wanting to give up draft picks to take a guy like Levis? Are you wanting to give up a ton of cash and whatever else for Carr? Are you wanting to reach on say Richardson in the first? Right now Sam is our best option.

Yes to trading up if they believe a Levis is a franchise QB

Yes to giving Carr a 3yr/100M/50M guar contract

Yes to taking Richardson if he falls naturally to us and they have a 1st round grade

Yes to signing a Brissett, drafting another day 2-3 QB and seeing what happens

Yes to every possible QB option

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I like Howell but Im not pausing my search for the next Burrow/Allen/Mahomes bc we have a 5th round rookie QB on the roster

sdskinsfan2001
01-23-2023, 02:22 PM
Yes to trading up if they believe a Levis is a franchise QB

Yes to giving Carr a 3yr/100M/50M guar contract

Yes to taking Richardson if he falls naturally to us and they have a 1st round grade

Yes to signing a Brissett, drafting another day 2-3 QB and seeing what happens

Yes to every possible QB option

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I like Howell but Im not pausing my search for the next Burrow/Allen/Mahomes bc we have a 5th round rookie QB on the roster

I don't want a lameduck HC/front office making any massive investments in either money or draft picks for anyone, a QB included. Where we are as a franchise, in terms of the strong chance of turnover and the possible sale of the team, Howell makes the most sense in 2023 in that regards too. Major decisions should be saved for 2024 imo.

Chief X_Phackter
01-23-2023, 02:41 PM
I don't think you can put the franchise on hold because it appears the team will be sold. As much as you may not like or agree with some of the decisions made by the current regime, they are still in charge. Personally, I hope they continue to try to make the best decisions they can to make this team better, and that they have the resources to do so. I'm sure I won't agree with all of their decision this offseason, but I want them to keep trying. If what they do ends up working - great. If not, I am sure the new ownership will deal with them appropriately.

As I have previously said, if RR and company can get this team rolling next year and they are competitive in the Division/NFC, then I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that they will be dismissed.

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