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AnonEmouse
01-12-2023, 04:43 AM
Reading your post one thing occured to me: this OC position might be really attractive. On top of all the offensive weapon and a young QB to develop, the fact it's almost guaranteed Ron is gone after next season with the new owner, of you're confident in what you can accomplish in a year, you can hope to be in the discussion to get promoted to HC.
I mean yeah the new owner will want to name the HC, but if he has a OC that just had one of the most explosive offense in the league, he could look at it and go "I'll be the good guy that promote a young promising coach to HC, and focus on other things".
All speculation but yeah, that OC position may actually be more attractive than this team's HC job.

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I was thinking exactly the same. RR pretty much left the O up to Turner rather than overly meddle. That suggests that whoever comes in likely has almost free reign. A good young OC could turn this into a potent O with one good off-season, and at worst bolster his CV for a HC job wherever. That's why I wouldn't go for a retread; get the guy who's hungry.

irish
01-12-2023, 08:45 AM
I was thinking exactly the same. RR pretty much left the O up to Turner rather than overly meddle. That suggests that whoever comes in likely has almost free reign. A good young OC could turn this into a potent O with one good off-season, and at worst bolster his CV for a HC job wherever. That's why I wouldn't go for a retread; get the guy who's hungry.

I doubt the OC will have free reign. Ron has said that he wants a run first 1985 style offense so a modern OC is already constrained in what he can do and how potent the O can be. Ron likes his peeps and wont bring in someone he's unfamiliar with.

skinsfaninok
01-12-2023, 09:34 AM
I doubt the OC will have free reign. Ron has said that he wants a run first 1985 style offense so a modern OC is already constrained in what he can do and how potent the O can be. Ron likes his peeps and wont bring in someone he's unfamiliar with.

Shows you how out of date Ron is

MTK
01-12-2023, 09:37 AM
Rodgers man idk. Gonna be 40 when the season starts? We would give up alot and probably wind up with no oline, no ilb, no shut down corner. Go real strong after Slowik and let him work with Howell. Brock Purdy is absolutely killing it. If we do not pursue Rodgers we can build a D and an oline like they have by next year. If we pursue Rodgers he better win next year. Just look at the niners. You do not need an absolute stud at qb if you have a good D, run game, weapons, oline, and staff. We are very close to having that if we bring in Slowik, draft right and make some moves in FA. And we are not mortgaging our future. You bring in AR u better win it all in the next two years.

Chances of winning it all in the next 2 years with Rodgers is much higher than without him.

Yes it's a risk and a move all your chips to the center of the table type of move. But fuck it, go big.

That said I seriously doubt it would happen given the ownership situation.

MTK
01-12-2023, 09:51 AM
I doubt the OC will have free reign. Ron has said that he wants a run first 1985 style offense so a modern OC is already constrained in what he can do and how potent the O can be. Ron likes his peeps and wont bring in someone he's unfamiliar with.

Don't fall for what RR was saying during that presser about wanting to run the ball.

Last offseason tells us all we need to know about what he wanted from the offense this year. They drafted a WR and a receiving TE. They signed Wentz for his arm and ability to stretch the field. They opened up the season trying to throw it 35-40 times a game until Wentz showed he couldn't get it done. They only reverted to pounding the ball once the Wentz experiment failed.

Instead of admitting they failed yet again at finding a QB and that's why the offense was run heavy, Ron tried to make it sound like that was the plan all along. It wasn't.

punch it in
01-12-2023, 09:55 AM
Chances of winning it all in the next 2 years with Rodgers is much higher than without him.

Yes it's a risk and a move all your chips to the center of the table type of move. But fuck it, go big.

That said I seriously doubt it would happen given the ownership situation.


Id get on board if it happened and a championship would erase any cares about the future.

If we run with Howell they better damn well make all the right moves around him. Either way we would be in a better position at quarterback than this year.

punch it in
01-12-2023, 09:56 AM
Don't fall for what RR was saying during that presser about wanting to run the ball.

Last offseason tells us all we need to know about what he wanted from the offense this year. They drafted a WR and a receiving TE. They signed Wentz for his arm and ability to stretch the field. They opened up the season trying to throw it 35-40 times a game until Wentz showed he couldn't get it done. They only reverted to pounding the ball once the Wentz experiment failed.

Instead of admitting they failed yet again at finding a QB and that's why the offense was run heavy, Ron tried to make it sound like that was the plan all along. It wasn't.


Exactly.

BaltimoreSkins
01-12-2023, 11:26 AM
Bringing AR in here would be a terrible idea. He is past his prime. Can't even beat the Lions at home with everything on the line. He isn't the player he once was. He was just throwing the ball up for grabs cause the Lions were putting heat on him. He doesn't want to get hit anymore.

I can get 3,600 and 26 td's out of Howell. Sure I may have to deal with some young QB mistakes but so be it. I want a QB to build around, not a guy who's a diva and is thinking about retirement after every season.

Also AR is not coming here under any circumstances. He'd retire before he came here.

Those are top 10 statistics. You feel that confident he will be that? I think he is some one that you can build around but not sure I'd expect that output.

Chief X_Phackter
01-12-2023, 01:33 PM
I really think Ron needs a guy that he can just leave alone so he can concentrate on whatever the hell it is he does. Still not sure what that is but keep my quarterback and my offense out yo mouth!

Punch, what do you think about John Morton? He's the "Senior Offensive Assistant" in Detroit. Before that he held the same position with the Raiders from 2019-2021. Pretty impressive years for Carr and Goff during his tenure at those places. As an offensive coach, he's worked under Bill Callahan, Norv Turner, Jim Harbaugh, Sean Payton, Pete Carroll, and Jon Gruden.

Chico23231
01-12-2023, 01:45 PM
I’d watch Mike Shula for OC. Don’t feel one way or the other, just experienced and there is a connection with Ron.

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