Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread

And a 4th and 9 conversion on that drive.

1/10 on 3rd down conversion, but only 1 true 3 and out possession.

Turner is handcuffed with playing calling. Heinike just limits what yo can do, makes what we do do predictable and the O line is below average. Leno left alone is becoming a problem. Outside of receivers making incredible 50-50 catches and runs up the middle ... youd think the PA would be killer.

Jones ran 10/35. D goal no. 1 seemed to be not let Jones beat you with his feet so we called lots of zone vs man, spied him ... we achieved goal no. 1 but at what cost.

5 down lineman has been our answer to stopping the run past few weeks, Giants audibled out of a play early when we went 5 DL, got a nice pass play and we seemed hesitant to go 5 DL as much

Sweat - Im sure he'll have a decent PFF grade but hes been Kerrigan this year, quiet for long stretches then has a big stat game.

Allen/payne - Giants just doubled and chipped those guys right out of the equation.

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Bad luck at times, bad ref calls at times (hold on Lucas to negate a 11 yd run right before Thib scoop and score was BS)

Giants were the better team.

I wished we had done a better job mixing up things on defense by bringing extra pressure on Jones. The defense only allowed 13 points, so they basically did their job. A few mishaps due to long drives. But overall, they did their job. You gotta score more points on the offensive side of the ball.

Did I say I really dislike this staff?

And we'll be back in the QB hunt again this offseason, still haven't managed to replace Kurt. Thanks Bruce.

- Start Howell
- Re-sign Heinicke to be the backup
- Draft a QB somewhere in the mid to back-half of the draft (he can be inactive on gamedays)
- Through FA or the Draft, add at least 2 tackles, a G, and a C that could play G in a pinch

That would be my preference for the off-season/2023.

And a 4th and 9 conversion on that drive.

I think they've been pretty good this year on 3rd down conversions, but that brought up horrible memories of years past never being able to get off of the field. Just no respect for our team, and they were right, it worked easily.

This is true but Ron has filled the position with stopgaps since Haskins left - he is as much to blame here as Scott Turner.

Who realistically could we have gotten though?

It was Wentz or Mayfield or Trubisky for us.

Kinda fortunate Stafford and Wilson didnt want to come here.

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Until we solve the QB puzzle, we will forever be a .500 ish at best team.

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I think Carr could be a realistic option and I think hed allow us to run a full playbook. Hes not a top 10 QB but hes "functional"

Oh! I almost forgot.... Riverboat Ron decided to punt when we were on the Giants' 34.

That last play was so bad even Dallas and Philly fans are saying we got fucked


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Had Mike Florio questioning whether or not this guy is the Tim Donaghy of the NFL. Says there will be a 30/30 on the betting and fixing in the nfl one day. These guys don’t make enough money to look away from a fat paycheck from some wise guy.

Despite the bs from the refs, if you're going to be a real playoff team you bury the Giants at home. We are not good enough to do that. It's the same old same old.. Heinicke, play calling, Turner, o-line..

Why do you run Samuel into the teeth of the defense and take BR out of the game? How stupid is that? Why does Ron let that happen? That is the dumbest shit ever. Take out BR who is running over the Giants and then give the ball to your 185lb WR to run up the middle. SMH...


After he got stuffed twice already. It is mind numbing that with BR and Gibson we ran a wr into the teeth of their defense. Turner wouldn’t be in this league but for his last name.

Oh! I almost forgot.... Riverboat Ron decided to punt when we were on the Giants' 34.


For a net gain of 4 yards. Lol. There are so many reasons this awful HC and staff lost that have nothing to do with the refs.

Let’s not let Ron off the hook.


I don't think anyone is. All of the problems we have now are the same as those we had in the offseason. Thats down to Ron.

We saw enough of Heinicke last year to know who he is, I don't consider him to even be much of a backup option. Given his history, Wentz was bound to miss a few games through injury, so we were going to need a competent backup, Heinicke isn't that.

The lack of depth at CB and LB, Bostic in particular, have been obvious to anyone with eyes who is not in denial. Imagine where we would be if Davis hadn't improved.

The OL was sacrificed to get Wentz, but the other QBs they were after would have cost twice as much, so acting like the cap crunch was an unexpected event is just stupidity or lack of planning

As for Scott Turner, Ron hired him over arguably a better candidate because of loyalty. He helped Ron get fired in Carolina but Rons mindset is he would rather be comfortable with his staff than being critical of their performance. He even gave Turner a contract extension in the off season, Ron most owe Norv big time.

Why is it they need to magically re "discover" the concept of running the ball a couple of times each year, but only after we have lost a bunch of winnable games

It is all down to Ron