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SunnySide 12-07-2022, 05:03 PM Figured we could do some more targeted threads to discuss certain units. These things are kind of a pain but ill do my best
LT Charles Leno (31 yrs old, 1st yr of 3/37M)
- 919 snaps ... has taken every single snap on the OL, my man.
- 75.9 PFF grade, 2 penalties, 5 sacks
LG Andrew Norwell (31 yrs old, 1st of 2/10)
- 916 snaps .. my man
- 587. PFF, 5 penalties, 4 sacks
C Tyler Larsen (31 yrs old, 1 yr 1M)
- 535 snaps
- 58.2 PFF, 1 penalty, 3 sacks
C Nick Martin (29 yrs old, ham sandwich)
- 156 snaps
- 42.6 PFF, 3 penalties, 0 sacks
LG Trai Turner (29 yrs old, UFA in '23)
- 527 snaps
- 62.1 PFF, 2 penalties, 2 sacks
LG Wes Schweitzer (29 yrs old, UFA in '23)
- 148 snaps
- 59.8 PFF, 1 penalty, 2 sacks
LT Sam Cosmi (23 yrs old, 2 more years on rookie deal, 1.8 and 2.1 hits)
- 432 snaps
- 77 PFF, 1 penalty, 5 sacks
LT Cornelius Lucas (31 yrs old, 1st yr of 2/6.4)
-523 snaps
- 65.6 PFF, 2 penalties, 4 sacks
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28th in allowed sacks w 37 (Boys #1 w 15)
27th in yards per carry w 4 yds/carry
Last (tied w 5 others) in runs over 40 yds with 0
13th in run yds per game w 125.4 yds/g
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SunnySide 12-07-2022, 05:04 PM Leno B+
Norwell C+
Larsen B
Martin D
Turner C
Schweitzer C
Cosmi C+
Lucas B-
Chief X_Phackter 12-07-2022, 05:22 PM It's amazing this team has gone on this run with those stats. Health has had a lot to do with it, and obviously the QB.
Wentz was sacked 23 times in 6 starts.
Heinicke has been sacked 14 times in 7 starts.
Not sure the switch to Heinicke had any affect on the running game, other than maybe they are running it more...?
Either way, we need a Center. I said it prior to the draft - that we need to address the Center position, and can't rely on Roullier coming off that broken leg, and look what happened - two significant lower leg injuries in as many years. That is the most important position on the O-line next to the L Tackle. Maybe he comes back ok, but I don't think you can count on it.
O-line in general - especially the interior and a legit swing Tackle needs to be a priority in the offseason.
Run = C-
Pass - D
punch it in 12-07-2022, 05:54 PM Run - A
Pass - D
Hope the OL is high on the priority list this offseason
I’d give the OL a C+/B- on the year so far
SFREDSKIN 12-07-2022, 07:53 PM Saadiq Charles is missing.
Carson Wentz has been sacked 23 times
TH has been sacked 14 times
I would grade the OL the following:
B for running game
C- for pass protection
FrenchSkin 12-07-2022, 08:11 PM Ranking the Oline following maybe their worst game of the season is tough... But overall I still like the unit's performance on the season.
No Pro Bowlers but they're getting the job done most of the time.
-Leno, slow AF but getting it done, keep it up old man!
-Norwell, same as above, but slower and fatter
-Larsen, good surprise, I thought we'd be effed when he got to start, but he's been hanging in there way better than expected
-Turner seems to still be a bit banged up but take away that awful game (against the Cowboys?) where he got benched, I think he's having a solid season
-Lucas is decent but we could use an upgrade here
-Schweitzer is a very high quality back up/more than decent starter IMO
-Cosmi is a legit RT starter when healthy
-Saadhiq Charles... I've been tough on him, rightfully so, but he has improved the last times we got to see him, didn't get embarrassed as he used to be
In short, I'd say all those guys are legit starters, but none of them is a high quality starter.
Individually you're not in trouble if any of them starts for you... as long as you have a couple of high quality guys around them. But an Oline with only decent starters is an issue over the long run.
Rather than a complete overall, I'd try to bring back most of those that can be brought back on the cheap, and find a couple of impact guys via any means necessary.
punch it in 12-07-2022, 09:45 PM Hope the OL is high on the priority list this offseason
I’d give the OL a C+/B- on the year so far
Hope the OL is high on the priority list this offseason
I’d give the OL a C+/B- on the year so far
Gotta be. Oline, QB, LB, CB. I wish I knew what we had in Howell. Not saying play him, I just wish I knew if he was going to amount to anything for my own sanity. We have a D-line and weapons on offense that I would hate to see fade away without a serious run at the very least.
C+ / B- is exactly where id be if i graded the run and pass as a complete package.
FrenchSkin 12-07-2022, 11:55 PM Gotta be. Oline, QB, LB, CB. I wish I knew what we had in Howell. Not saying play him, I just wish I knew if he was going to amount to anything for my own sanity. We have a D-line and weapons on offense that I would hate to see fade away without a serious run at the very least.
C+ / B- is exactly where id be if i graded the run and pass as a complete package.
Agree with the positions, but as for the order of urgency, I'd go QB, LB, OL, CB depth.
SFREDSKIN 12-08-2022, 12:02 AM Agree with the positions, but as for the order of urgency, I'd go QB, LB, OL, CB depth.
I still feel Howell is our future QB, would love to somehow see what he can do. At this stage is wait till next year. Would hate to waste a high pick on a QB when OL, LB and CB are priorities. If Mac Jones and Purdy can do it, so can Howell.
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