2022 Midterms thread

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Chico23231
11-16-2022, 08:49 AM
The Federal Reserve likely will need to push unemployment far higher than its 4.1 percent projection if it is to succeed in bringing inflation down to its 2 percent target by the end of 2024, suggests a paper discussed at the Brookings Papers on Economic Activity (BPEA) conference on September 8.

https://www.brookings.edu/bpea-articles/understanding-u-s-inflation-during-the-covid-era/

Dont worry .. Dems and Biden will get all the blame for this global covid inflation/recession and come 2024, just when the sun is starting to peak out ... an R president will take credit for inheriting a growing recovering economy.

Good thing grown ups are in charge for the 4 years when we need grown ups in charge to clean up this covid mess and not people who would just deflect and blame others.

America ... even those red hate filled states ... youre welcome.

The grownups who policy decisions lead us here which we can once again point too and clearly how we got here.

Democrats lead us to record inflation and then lied about it, fentanyl deaths, record energy prices, contributed to the Covid crisis with not having testing ready for the omicron wave, masked children for zero reason and kept businesses and schools shutdown….didn’t see the baby formula shortage, couldn’t stop Putin from European war, record illegals crossing, Afghanistan debacle where soldiers died.

The gaslighting ain’t gonna work…the excuse making when y’all were in charge ain’t gonna work.

The buck stops at the clown in the White House.

Chico23231
11-16-2022, 08:51 AM
Second, the national debt (adjusted for inflation) increased more rapidly under the past four Republican administrations — at an average annual rate of 10.2 percent during the Reagan administration, 8.2 percent and 5.9 percent during the two Bush administrations, and 6.8 percent during the Trump administration — compared with only 1.6 percent and 4.6 percent during the Clinton and Obama administrations, respectively.
If those four Republican administrations had been as fiscally responsible as their Democratic counterparts, the national debt would be about 70 percent lower than it is, increasing from 31 percent of gross national product in 1981 to 37 percent today — rather than the actual 123 percent for fiscal 2021. For Republicans to oppose raising the debt ceiling, and to frame this hostage-taking as a commitment to fiscal restraint, is the height of hypocrisy when their administrations have been in charge during most of the debt increase of the past 40 years.

Those are facts. But please go on about how Biden could have just waved his magic wand. Lol

“Those are the facts”….lol.

The excuse making for this economy ain’t gonna work. It’s completely owned by this administration.

punch it in
11-16-2022, 08:52 AM
Call me old fashioned, but I come from a land where election day use to mean something.

Also, it definitely creates more doubt about the elections for lots of people. When it takes weeks to figure out, there will be more people that will think something fishy is going on than if results came in right away.

Why can't people send in their ballots 2 weeks before? Is 14 days a huge difference? The elections are every 2 years. I don't think it's asking too much for people that don't want to vote in person to request and send in their ballots 2 weeks early. If there was a deadline, people would meet that deadline if they really cared about voting.


Election day does mean something. But it is just symbolic. Every vote means something. Its a process that is all. Im not in favor of speeding up or changing the rules to appease conspiracy theorists though. If people think something fishy is going on it is because they are paranoid and or unhappy with the results they see. Oh well. It changes nothing if we know who holds every seat sooner. Other than, like you said, to appease the people who “think” something fishy is going on. [emoji2371]

nonniey
11-16-2022, 08:55 AM
What is the rush to know who wins the seats in November? Does it change anything? Serious question. If we knew a week ago the result of every seat would it matter other than for us to say haha we won?

These are the checks in place to ensure mail ballots are cou nted accurately and not part of fraud. While I would be okay if mail in ballotin g finished earlier I don't think it would negate the problem of timeliness. We still have issues with in person counting for various reasons and then there are legalities of denying people access to voting if they were planning to vote in person but in the last two weeks there is something that prevents them, (jury duty for example). I get it though it is annoying.

It's more than annoying, it is damaging. The delays feed lies and conspiracy theories which undermine our democracy. There are best practices out there (from large states) that show the count can be completed on election day. Implement those practices.

punch it in
11-16-2022, 08:57 AM
“Those are the facts”….lol.

The excuse making for this economy ain’t gonna work. It’s completely owned by this administration.


No. It is not. Everyone knew in February of 2020 a recession was possible because of Trumps handling of the economy for four years. There were rumblings of a recession well before that actually. But you and others ignored it because you and others think that our pocket books feel the economy in real time. They don’t. Republican administrations and their fiscal irresponsibility have started the last four recessions. Fact. Than Democratic administrations have to bail them out, and that is not simple to do. Im not going to go back and forth with you because you clearly do not understand how a recession works. It isn’t instant. It takes time for it to come back to us. People were saying this in 2018, 19, and 20. You refused to listen.

Chico23231
11-16-2022, 08:59 AM
Lol…it’s Trumps fault. Ain’t gonna work.

Giantone
11-16-2022, 09:01 AM
Lol…it’s Trumps fault. Ain’t gonna work.

Not to you but you're ignorant so you wouldn't understand anyway.

sdskinsfan2001
11-16-2022, 09:25 AM
Election day does mean something. But it is just symbolic. Every vote means something. Its a process that is all. Im not in favor of speeding up or changing the rules to appease conspiracy theorists though. If people think something fishy is going on it is because they are paranoid and or unhappy with the results they see. Oh well. It changes nothing if we know who holds every seat sooner. Other than, like you said, to appease the people who “think” something fishy is going on. [emoji2371]

Then all elections should revert back to pre-Covid rules across the board. Because elections have certainly changed since 2018.

nonniey
11-16-2022, 09:25 AM
One thing that needs to be illegal when it comes to elections is vote curing. Looks like that is going on in Boebert's district right now. I can't stand her and vote curing could cause her to lose but it is a practice that could undermine the will of the voters. Patty Murray is a Senator because of vote curing. Years ago she was trailing in the vote count and vote curing turned the election for her. They got a list of all the voters with issues and went to each house - and stated they were doing a post election survey. They asked the voters who they had voted for - if they voted for her opponent they thanked them for the info and left, if they voted for Murray they got the voter to the polling station to fix their vote. This occurred weeks after the election. Apparently there were a lot more thank you for your time than there were come with me responses. (So in reality she got fewer votes but won because of this practice).

SunnySide
11-16-2022, 10:21 AM
Generally I think we want as many people who want to vote, to get their vote counted. If there was minor defect that prevented a persons ballot from being counted ... we should want that persons vote counted.

But I could see vote curing being unfair ... if one campaign has means to go door to door and the other doesnt.

Flip side ... Civil Rights Act of 1964 says no vote can be discarded for reasons not material to their voter eligibility.

Republicans in PA and their State conservative Court and then the conservative SCOTUS .. are not counting mail in ballots that dont have hand written dates on the outside of envelopes. Writing a date on an envelope is not part of voter eligibility.

As long as conservatives create more administrative road blocks to discourage people from voting .. then I hope Dems have a strong vote curing game.

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Republicans want and create road blocks to voting.

Maricopa County AZ is big blue county in a red state ... since 2012 and the Shelby decision, AZ has closed 171 voting stations in Maricopa County.

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