The Sam Howell Thread

That’s fine but if Sam loses out to a rookie you lose draft capital.

I am not going to dwell too much on Sam's future here. If there is a new FO this off season and they decide to draft a QB I am certain we could trade Sam for 2nd, maybe even a 1st the way he is playing. Either way it is a win.

No way I’d move a young quarterback that’s shown a lot of advanced passing skills like Sam has done in his first year of starting. While I’m good with GM making a call on drafting another QB, in same breath I’m not moving Sam. That would be really dumb.

Like it or not, Sam has played too damn well just to give up on his development now. The value of having a second quality QB on the team is way underrated.

If this team gives up on Howell after literally carrying these sorry ass lineman, it would be one of the worst moves Harris could make. The fans would go crazy too. Sam has become a fan favorite and rightfully so. Dude lays it all on the line every game.


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That’s fine but if Sam loses out to a rookie you lose draft capital.


Not if that rookie kicks ass. Then we just have two good young quarterbacks.

We draft say Williams who beats out Sam. Sam would be worth the same thing he is now.

No way I’d move a young quarterback that’s shown a lot of advanced passing skills like Sam has done in his first year of starting. While I’m good with GM making a call on drafting another QB, in same breath I’m not moving Sam. That would be really dumb.

Like it or not, Sam has played too damn well just to give up on his development now. The value of having a second quality QB on the team is way underrated.

This is how I feel. I have not problem drafting a QB but I'm not taking anyone in the first round. 4th round perhaps.

Since 2000 there has been 69 QBs taken in first round .
17 were #1 overall pick (the year is listed before name)
01-Vick,02-Carr,03-Palmer,04-E Manning,05-A smith,07-Russell,09-Stafford,10-Bradford,11-Newton,12-Luck,15-Winston,16-Goff,18-Mayfield,19-Murray,20-Burrow,21-Lawrence,23-Young
Out of those picks there is only one sure fire Bust ( Russell) at least 10 elite level and the rest very solid ..

Now it gets interesting.. 6 were number 2 overall picks
12-R Griffin,15-Mariota,16-Wentz,17-Trubisky,21-Z Wilson,23-Cj Stroud …Other than Stroud that is a huge drop off in talent

6 were pick#3
02-Harrington,06-V Young,08-M Ryan,14-Bortles,18-Darnold,21-Lance … One very solid in Ryan
2 were pick#4
04-Rivers,23-Richardson
2 were pick #5
09-Sanchez,20-Tua
2/#6 19-Jones,20-Herbert
2/#7 03-Leftwich,18-J Allen
2/#8 11-locker,12-Tannehill
0/#9
4/#10 06-Leinart ,11-Gabbert,17-Mahomes,18-Rosen
3/#11 04-Big Ben,06-Cutler,21-Fields
2/#12 11-Ponder,17-Watson
0/13
0/14
2/15 19-Haskins,21-M jones
1/16 13-Manual
1/17 09-Freeman
2/18 00-Pennington,08-Flacco
1/19 03-Boller
1/20 22-Pickett
0/21
5/22 03-Grossman,04-Lossman,07-Quinn,14- Manziel,12-Weeden
0/23
1/24 05-A Rogers
2/25 05-J Campbell,10-Tebow
2/26 16-Lynch,20-Love
0/27-31
3/32 02-Ramsey,14-Bridgwater,18-Jackson

Other than The number ONE pick it’s at best a crap shoot picking a Qb in first round …10 QBs from 2cnd pick to 32 pick in first round were elite franchise QB .. and that’s since 2000 (10 out of 52 )

this research took some time 😀🥃 hope y’all dig it !

this research took some time 😀🥃 hope y’all dig it !

Thanks, good stuff.

Is it worth pointing out that usually if a new GM/HC comes in, they're often inclined to get their own QB because the incumbent is average or poor? How often has a HC come into a job where they've inherited a good or even great QB, and turfed them out for 'their guy'?

My opinion
Elite level 17 players
2cnd tier 8
Mid pack 15
Below average 13
Bust 13
Too early too tell 3 ( stroud,Bryce young,Richardson )

What is y’all’s opinion ..