The Sam Howell Thread


mredskins
10-17-2023, 08:21 AM
https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player

Howell stats very solid among other QBs

The filter on that web page was set to total yards , which again is skewed by the CHI game , when the Bears sat in prevent and Sam throw nearly 400 meaningless yards in a blow out.

Click QBR he is ranked 20th which is probably about right , he is the 20th best QB out of 32.

He is not bad but he is not anything special either to this point.

Remember next year most likely a whole new coaching. Is that coaching staff really going to want to hook their wagon to SH?


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mredskins
10-17-2023, 08:26 AM
Mredskins you are such a fuckin dickhead

Let us fuckin enjoy this for a second.

I don’t resort to name calling on here but fine sorry if a difference in opinion makes me a fucking dickhead.

When a debate is lost , slander is the tool of the loser

I am not sure what everyone is enjoying ? You have the 20th best QB by ESPN QBR rating system out of 32.

Sorry I am not heading down to the Sam Howell celebration parade on Pennsylvania Ave to celebrate his 20th place ranking.

HTTR
10-17-2023, 08:59 AM
I am not sure what everyone is enjoying ? You have the 20th best QB by ESPN QBR rating system out of 32.


Where do we rank on play calling? Where on TE route running? Where on OL protection? Where on game preparation by the HC?

Just curious.


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punch it in
10-17-2023, 09:51 AM
I don’t resort to name calling on here but fine sorry if a difference in opinion makes me a fucking dickhead.

When a debate is lost , slander is the tool of the loser

I am not sure what everyone is enjoying ? You have the 20th best QB by ESPN QBR rating system out of 32.

Sorry I am not heading down to the Sam Howell celebration parade on Pennsylvania Ave to celebrate his 20th place ranking.


It is his 7th game. Do you think there is a chance that in year two or three he could be top 10 like he is in completion percentage or yards? Or are those ratings by espn meaningless?

Take a look at the roughly 30 different starting quarterbacks we have trotted out there over the last 20 years and see where they ranked in those categories over their first 7 games. You will feel better.

Chico23231
10-17-2023, 09:52 AM
I don’t resort to name calling on here but fine sorry if a difference in opinion makes me a fucking dickhead.

When a debate is lost , slander is the tool of the loser

I am not sure what everyone is enjoying ? You have the 20th best QB by ESPN QBR rating system out of 32.

Sorry I am not heading down to the Sam Howell celebration parade on Pennsylvania Ave to celebrate his 20th place ranking.

I was typing that tongue in cheek while laughing at your “piss in everyone bowl of cornflakes” post. The red rifle? Seriously?

While QBR is a good metric, his passer rating is solid. His yards per attempt, tds are strong.

Also, his run threat and off script abilities are in-line with todays QB prototype which meets the needs when facing a more athletic, faster defenses. This isn’t Andy Dalton standing tall in the pocket.

He passes the eye test and I think EB offense is a fit for him.

Let him grow and please get Oline in the offseason

Don’t get mad when I call out some trolling and hatin

mooby
10-17-2023, 10:07 AM
Sam has plenty to like but the one thing he really needs to learn is an incomplete pass is much better than a sack. One of these days he will get injured off a sack and then he will learn the best ability is availability.

I like the kid but he's gotta work on those weaknesses. 3rd and 10 is much better than 3rd and 17.

mredskins
10-17-2023, 10:10 AM
Where do we rank on play calling? Where on TE route running? Where on OL protection? Where on game preparation by the HC?

Just curious.


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Exactly! I don't know what metric to use to determine he is going be great.

At this point i say he has the opportunity to be a serviceable QB1 in this league. Now for him to get too say the impact starter level he needs to be faster on his reads and not take as many sacks.

We have just been so statured with poor QB play over the last few decades that the first guy to complete a screen pass and we think we have Joe Montana II.


To put in perspective I was way more excited about RGIII going into week 7 of his rookie year then i am of SH going into his week 7 of his "rookie" year.

mredskins
10-17-2023, 10:17 AM
It is his 7th game. Do you think there is a chance that in year two or three he could be top 10 like he is in completion percentage or yards? Or are those ratings by espn meaningless?

Take a look at the roughly 30 different starting quarterbacks we have trotted out there over the last 20 years and see where they ranked in those categories over their first 7 games. You will feel better.

Absolutely he could be or he could be out of the league as well, nothing right now tells me he is going be amazing but i do feel he is serviceable as of right now, my opinion

I hope he becomes a HoF QB and we win some SBs, I am just saying as of RIGHT now i don't see it but i do believe he has the potential to be a serviceable QB1 for years to come.

Why would I go back and look at that? That be equal to saying "hey remember when we were broke now we have $10!" still doesn't cover our bills though but yeah we got $10 better then broke, that is SH at this point $10

punch it in
10-17-2023, 11:06 AM
Absolutely he could be or he could be out of the league as well, nothing right now tells me he is going be amazing but i do feel he is serviceable as of right now, my opinion

I hope he becomes a HoF QB and we win some SBs, I am just saying as of RIGHT now i don't see it but i do believe he has the potential to be a serviceable QB1 for years to come.

Why would I go back and look at that? That be equal to saying "hey remember when we were broke now we have $10!" still doesn't cover our bills though but yeah we got $10 better then broke, that is SH at this point $10


Top 10 in yards and completion percentage, and the all time yardage leader after 7 games of any Washington quarterback ever just doesn’t scream serviceable to me. Nothing is certain M, and yes he could be a HOF’er or a bust. But if we are speculating based on someones first 7 games I am going to lean towards optimism not pessimism based on those things.
Didn’t actually expect you to go look at the list of prior quarterbacks. You don’t have to. You know the quarterback situation here has been nothing short of lackluster since Joey T! Cousins but we fucked that up. Lol. I am just surprised that we took a guy in round 5 who is flashing the way he is and you seem upset with our quarterback situation. Not sure what you need to see other than a guy with arm strength, accuracy, toughness, poise, and mobility after 7 games? He holds the ball too long. Ok. That isn’t a physical trait that cannot be fixed like a noodle arm, or a guy who cannot move.

Sam Howell is the equivalent of a ten dollar bill? Wow.

mredskins
10-17-2023, 11:43 AM
Top 10 in yards and completion percentage, and the all time yardage leader after 7 games of any Washington quarterback ever just doesn’t scream serviceable to me. Nothing is certain M, and yes he could be a HOF’er or a bust. But if we are speculating based on someones first 7 games I am going to lean towards optimism not pessimism based on those things.
Didn’t actually expect you to go look at the list of prior quarterbacks. You don’t have to. You know the quarterback situation here has been nothing short of lackluster since Joey T! Cousins but we fucked that up. Lol. I am just surprised that we took a guy in round 5 who is flashing the way he is and you seem upset with our quarterback situation. Not sure what you need to see other than a guy with arm strength, accuracy, toughness, poise, and mobility after 7 games? He holds the ball too long. Ok. That isn’t a physical trait that cannot be fixed like a noodle arm, or a guy who cannot move.

Sam Howell is the equivalent of a ten dollar bill? Wow.

Great Read from a non biased source:

https://theathletic.com/4968731/2023/10/17/sam-howell-sacks-commanders-offensive-line/

When the day is done in order for SH to become better then serviceable he has got solve this sack/progression issue that has plagued him since NC, everyone can call me a fucking dickhead or get their panties in a bunch over him being a $10 bill but until he fixes this issue he is a serviceable not great QB1.

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