The Sam Howell Thread

Thanks for sharing the details as I'm not subscriber to ESPN. The assessment seems appropriate and debbie-downer.

Not trying to defend Howell, but I think there's a big difference between players like Sam and Ridder who obviously need development, and the rest of the QBs on that list, who are either veterans that are obviously in decline (Russ, Tannehill) and first-round busts (Wilson and Baker).

Hell, even Ridder has played 3 more games (7 games) than Howell (4 games).

Thanks for sharing the details as I'm not subscriber to ESPN. The assessment seems appropriate and debbie-downer.

i figure most don't have the subscription

But i feel like it was a fair assessment with his current body of work

Not trying to defend Howell, but I think there's a big difference between players like Sam and Ridder who obviously need development, and the rest of the QBs on that list, who are either veterans that are obviously in decline (Russ, Tannehill) and first-round busts (Wilson and Baker).

Hell, even Ridder has played 3 more games (7 games) than Howell (4 games).

Its titled six candidates that could get benched; Sam love him or not is definitely a benching candidate

Plus they are not pitting each QB against each other, I am not sure where you are trying to go with your argument. The list could have been 0 or 32 long.

Wilsons play has no bearing on Sam and vice a verses but both are strong candidates for benching.

Its titled six candidates that could get benched; Sam love him or not is definitely a benching candidate

Plus they are not pitting each QB against each other, I am not sure where you are trying to go with your argument. The list could have been 0 or 32 long.

Wilsons play has no bearing on Sam and vice a verses but both are strong candidates for benching.

I guess by that logic, then they should have included Bryce Young, who was pretty terrible in his first start and is already hurt (durability was a big question given his size).

I guess by that logic, then they should have included Bryce Young, who was pretty terrible in his first start and is already hurt (durability was a big question given his size).

Sure I guess, still doesn't mean Sam shouldn't be a potential candidate for benching

But it is also pretty obvious Bryce has a much longer rope then anyone of the six on that list, considering his draft stock and career starts

The only thing that will bench Bryce this season would be an injury

Very good assessment there. My two cents are that Howell himself does have a longer leash. Even if he plays the way he has we could be sitting at 5-2 or 4-3. Neither is a bad mark. The flip side is RR might be playing for his job too if he is, he knows Brissett has more precision.

Very good assessment there. My two cents are that Howell himself does have a longer leash. Even if he plays the way he has we could be sitting at 5-2 or 4-3. Neither is a bad mark. The flip side is RR might be playing for his job too if he is, he knows Brissett has more precision.

Think of Sam as a coin currently flipping around in the air , heads he is a franchise QB and tails he is a bust, we are still waiting for the coin to land and IMO it should flip for 17 games because what does Brissett really bring? Maybe if he is better then Sam say 2 or 3 more wins better; he certainly isn't anyone's long term answer at QB1 but a very nice QB2 (which more and more in todays NFL is a very nice piece to have on a contending team)

We really need to see Sam and write out the entire chapter and say definitely he is is or is not the MAN.

I see no point in turning to JB until we know for sure Sam isn’t the guy.

Good article in ESPN :
https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/38499873/ranking-six-nfl-quarterbacks-get-benched-2023-zach-wilson-sam-howell


Great read, thank you!

I don't understand why the Jets don't call Wentz. He is better than Wilson and the guy they just bought in.