That's fair question.. Although Keim did say that we would have drafted Howell in the 2nd/3rd round pick if we hadn't traded for Wentz. Would you have felt differently if we did draft him in the 2nd round?
Edit: just like a few others said, Howell is our best option given our cards so let's just roll with him and see where he takes us.
I'm all for giving him a shot.
But it's worth noting the rest of the league passed him over multiple times as well.
I hope he proves all the doubters wrong.
punch it in
05-08-2023, 04:05 PM
I'm all for giving him a shot.
But it's worth noting the rest of the league passed him over multiple times as well.
I hope he proves all the doubters wrong.
He lost a lot of his surrounding talent his junior year at UNC, couple that with his height and throw in how weak everyone looked at the quarterback class as a whole. You get a once sure fire top 10 pick falling into the fifth round. He may not pan out, but I put absolutely zero stock in the fact that he fell in the draft. It was 100 percent due to things out if his control. If he had come out the year before he would have been a first rounder. We were fortunate to get him in the fifth round.
He lost a lot of his surrounding talent his junior year at UNC, couple that with his height and throw in how weak everyone looked at the quarterback class as a whole. You get a once sure fire top 10 pick falling into the fifth round. He may not pan out, but I put absolutely zero stock in the fact that he fell in the draft. It was 100 percent due to things out if his control. If he had come out the year before he would have been a first rounder. We were fortunate to get him in the fifth round.
You don't think the league knew about the talent he lost? And considering the weak QB class he came out in he should have easily stood out. Let's not get into the height excuse when Bryce Young just went #1 at 5'10 and Kyler Murray in 2019 at the same height.
Sorry man, not buying any of this. If he was a legit first round talent he would have gone in the first round. Again, I'll be rooting for him and I really hope he proves the doubters wrong, maybe we did find a gem, but history is not on our side when it comes to 5th rounders becoming stud QBs.
punch it in
05-08-2023, 04:45 PM
You don't think the league knew about the talent he lost? And considering the weak QB class he came out in he should have easily stood out. Let's not get into the height excuse when Bryce Young just went #1 at 5'10 and Kyler Murray in 2019 at the same height.
Sorry man, not buying any of this. If he was a legit first round talent he would have gone in the first round. Again, I'll be rooting for him and I really hope he proves the doubters wrong, maybe we did find a gem, but history is not on our side when it comes to 5th rounders becoming stud QBs.
But he was a legit first round talent the year before. His play didn’t fall off that much. So [emoji2371].
Chico23231
05-08-2023, 04:52 PM
The one thing i like about the Sam is this is kinda the perfect situation for this team right now. A guy the team likes and based on the sale and new regime in waiting, if it fails…it won’t hurt down the road. Just this year.
Unlike the Haskins decision where the new regime in Ron was forced to give Haskins a look when we had the no 2 pick in the draft with solid QB options that year. We hear “set back” a lot, there was no truer of a definition of a franchise set back than that. Still disgusted by that move
punch it in
05-08-2023, 05:01 PM
The one thing i like about the Sam is this is kinda the perfect situation for this team right now. A guy the team likes and based on the sale and new regime in waiting, if it fails…it won’t hurt down the road. Just this year.
Unlike the Haskins decision where the new regime in Ron was forced to give Haskins a look when we had the no 2 pick in the draft with solid QB options that year. We hear “set back” a lot, there was no truer of a definition of a franchise set back than that. Still disgusted by that move
[emoji817]. if he becomes the guy everyone thought he would be after his first two years it is an absolute dream scenario and if he doesn’t oh well.
Why Howell went in the fifth round after his third year at UNC is still a mystery imo.
Old article but as far as him slipping in the draft it is still timely.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/sam-howell-nfl-draft-2022/d5bzace3f5rafuzzek5lwpk0
But he was a legit first round talent the year before. His play didn’t fall off that much. So [emoji2371].
Right, his play didn't fall off much and he came out in a weak class and still lasted until the 5th. I think fans need to let go of the draft hype and grades because it meant nothing in his case.
punch it in
05-08-2023, 07:15 PM
Right, his play didn't fall off much and he came out in a weak class and still lasted until the 5th. I think fans need to let go of the draft hype and grades because it meant nothing in his case.
Well in fairness the hype for him was before his third year. But even before his draft he was a second round projection.
Hey if nothing else the guy will play with a chip on his shoulder. Id still take him over Pickett too.
skinsfaninok
05-09-2023, 05:13 PM
If you check twitter today apparently Sam’s ceiling is Colt McCoy lol!! Good lord these DC media guys kill me
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sdskinsfan2001
05-09-2023, 06:24 PM
If you check twitter today apparently Sam’s ceiling is Colt McCoy lol!! Good lord these DC media guys kill me
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Anyone that posted that is truly fucking stupid. Maybe he doesn't pan out, but his ceiling is certainly not Colt McCoy. That's absurd.