Ron Rivera

...he got this team on track when he got here after the Bruce Allen years.....and he has done as much as he can do....and maybe it's time for someone else to come in and pick up where Ron left off.....I've gotten to this point with Ron.

What you said here is nearly exactly how I fell about Ron. He's had so very much to overcome here that just being able to separate the football side from the rest of this toxic and inept organization has been a meaningful contribution to the team. That much needs to continue and be built upon by whomever leads the football side in the future.

Like you, I think Ron has done as much as he can because he and his coordinators clearly can't keep up with the modern brand of NFL football. So, to move forward from here, we need a coach who can thrive in the 21st Century NFL football environment.

The greatest inhibitor to this happening is, as we all know, the person at the top of this organization. I think that he is more likely to tear down what Ron has done rather than to hire a person who can move the work forward from this point.

I was a huge fan of this hire and I kept giving him excuses but now it's time for him to go.

1. The team is not getting better in the W/L Column where it matters most.
2. He's never energetic, all he does is stand there all game with no emotions.
3. He's supposed to be a defensive coach and he's NEVER had a good defense here.
4. He says the same shit every week "well we are growing and learning" LMAO Learning how to suck.
5. He has done NOTHING to help the holes our defense has had over the last few years especially at LB a position he played!!

The whole staff is garbage and the fact that the social media team celebrates a catch from Terry when losing 24-0 speaks volumes about where this team is.

I'm over these clowns and franchise. I legit don't care anymore and I'd be 100% done if it wasn't for this forum.

1. Cant argue with that. Only comment is that it was a good coaching job to get this Taylor Heinike, injured roster team to 7-10 last year. Sitting at 2-6, we won 4 straight and showed some fight and leadership.

2. Energy and emotion - Post game, the man delivers. Hes a leader of men. hes not going to be emotional on the sideline during a game.

3. He relies too much on JDR and that may ultimately be his down bringing .. too loyal to his generals

4. He does coach speak, for the most part .. idk

5. LB = wasnt much out there but Blake martinez should have been brought in. QB = hes tried for stafford, Wilson but no big name wants to come here, so we get the choice of wentz/jimmy g/mayfield types. Damaged goods QBs for a damaged goods franchise.

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it is what it is ... we need to tank for a QB

Eagles hurried up because they knew. So they were able to see the replay and run a play but Ron wasn’t able to throw a flag?
It was 0-0 at that point so timeout schmimeout.

Anyway no there is nobody to replace him now. We will suffer through another year. After which I really hope we give some coordinator a shot. Maybe Bieniemy? Idk. But a change is necessary.

They knew? I'm not buying that. Teams hurry up all the time when it's a big play and it's close - just in case. Sometimes a challenge is warranted, and sometimes it's not. Hurts knew it was close and wanted to hurry up before a flag could be thrown, and RR was one second too late - I'll give you that.

Look, I'm not saying that a challenge flag shouldn't have been thrown, but honestly the defense was playing fine up to that point, and even after that play they only gave up 3 points. I'm just not a fan of just throwing the flag if you aren't sure it's warranted.

Anyway, not throwing the challenge flag one second earlier is like the last thing I'm concerned about after watching that game.

If you want a turning point, look at Carson's fumble on their own 23 yard line - followed by Philly's first TD.

Anyway, not throwing the challenge flag one second earlier is like the last thing I'm concerned about after watching that game.

If you want a turning point, look at Carson's fumble on their own 23 yard line - followed by Philly's first TD.

But in terms of Ron and what Ron actually does during games ... Scott is play calling, JDR is sending out the same nickel package every down ... Ron is responsible for TOs, deciding to go for it for 2 or on 4th down ... and throwing the challenge flag.

Zero reason for Ron to slow walk onto the field, watching Eagles doing a hurry up and take his time gentlemenly tossing the flag. Im sure he'll say he was waiting to hear from his replay team in his ear whether to challenge or not but its on Ron. Make an executive decision everyone on their couch saw in live time.

Im a Ron defender, I think he has done a lot more good than bad with his time here and the things hes done "off the field" have been huge in terms of making us close to a competent complete organization (scouts/infrastructure/having an HR, execs etc)

BUT not throwing that challenge flag and going for 2 a second time last week ... is inexcusable.

Unforced error.

Coaches cant make bone head unforced errors that effects what happens on the field.

We're in the proverbial position of holding a tiger by the tail. Rivera's performance has been less than satisfactory, but firing him would be a grave mistake. He may not be considered a good coach, but he's a respected individual around the league. As pathetic as this organization is, Rivera's tenure has coincided with a particularly tumultuous series of events brought on by the owner. Rivera handled it with class and dignity, and much of this while he was going through cancer treatment. Firing him now or at the end of the season would go over like a lead balloon around the league. We're not going to win with this coaching staff in place, but the fallout from his firing would be too great a price to pay. Screwed if we do, screwed if we don't.

We're in the proverbial position of holding a tiger by the tail. Rivera's performance has been less than satisfactory, but firing him would be a grave mistake. He may not be considered a good coach, but he's a respected individual around the league. As pathetic as this organization is, Rivera's tenure has coincided with a particularly tumultuous series of events brought on by the owner. Rivera handled it with class and dignity, and much of this while he was going through cancer treatment. Firing him now or at the end of the season would go over like a lead balloon around the league. We're not going to win with this coaching staff in place, but the fallout from his firing would be too great a price to pay. Screwed if we do, screwed if we don't.

I'd rather have the league not like us for it, and have a chance to actually win games. Then continue to suck so we don't hurt some feelings outside of the team.

But in terms of Ron and what Ron actually does during games ... Scott is play calling, JDR is sending out the same nickel package every down ... Ron is responsible for TOs, deciding to go for it for 2 or on 4th down ... and throwing the challenge flag.

Zero reason for Ron to slow walk onto the field, watching Eagles doing a hurry up and take his time gentlemenly tossing the flag. Im sure he'll say he was waiting to hear from his replay team in his ear whether to challenge or not but its on Ron. Make an executive decision everyone on their couch saw in live time.

Im a Ron defender, I think he has done a lot more good than bad with his time here and the things hes done "off the field" have been huge in terms of making us close to a competent complete organization (scouts/infrastructure/having an HR, execs etc)

BUT not throwing that challenge flag and going for 2 a second time last week ... is inexcusable.

Unforced error.

Coaches cant make bone head unforced errors that effects what happens on the field.

I'm not going to argue with any of that. My original point was simply that not throwing the challenge flag a second earlier wasn't the reason they got boat raced yesterday.

Me personally, putting myself in his shoes, I'm not throwing the challenge flag there unless I know for sure I'm winning it. Sounds like plenty of people (especially with the benefit of sitting on their couch and seeing the instant replay) would have thrown it immediately, timeout be damned. I'm just not one of them.

We're in the proverbial position of holding a tiger by the tail. Rivera's performance has been less than satisfactory, but firing him would be a grave mistake. He may not be considered a good coach, but he's a respected individual around the league. As pathetic as this organization is, Rivera's tenure has coincided with a particularly tumultuous series of events brought on by the owner. Rivera handled it with class and dignity, and much of this while he was going through cancer treatment. Firing him now or at the end of the season would go over like a lead balloon around the league. We're not going to win with this coaching staff in place, but the fallout from his firing would be too great a price to pay. Screwed if we do, screwed if we don't.

Nicely written

We're in the proverbial position of holding a tiger by the tail. Rivera's performance has been less than satisfactory, but firing him would be a grave mistake. He may not be considered a good coach, but he's a respected individual around the league. As pathetic as this organization is, Rivera's tenure has coincided with a particularly tumultuous series of events brought on by the owner. Rivera handled it with class and dignity, and much of this while he was going through cancer treatment. Firing him now or at the end of the season would go over like a lead balloon around the league. We're not going to win with this coaching staff in place, but the fallout from his firing would be too great a price to pay. Screwed if we do, screwed if we don't.

All of that is so true.

We're in the proverbial position of holding a tiger by the tail. Rivera's performance has been less than satisfactory, but firing him would be a grave mistake. He may not be considered a good coach, but he's a respected individual around the league. As pathetic as this organization is, Rivera's tenure has coincided with a particularly tumultuous series of events brought on by the owner. Rivera handled it with class and dignity, and much of this while he was going through cancer treatment. Firing him now or at the end of the season would go over like a lead balloon around the league. We're not going to win with this coaching staff in place, but the fallout from his firing would be too great a price to pay. Screwed if we do, screwed if we don't.

I don't think there would be any fallout from his firing whatsoever or any price to be paid. A coach getting fired is routine business in the NFL. Just another day at the office. Some people say NFL coaches are hired to be fired.