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skinsfan69
09-21-2022, 11:20 AM
I think you mean St-Juste. He hit low gear there... It looks terrible, but honestly, the only dude within 10 yards of Swift when he fell down was Jeter, who was signed just before the game and isn't even on the team now. I think it was just an unfortunate play. McCain recognized it immediately, but came in too hot. Fuller came in hot but he was obstructed by Chark. Forrest and Jackson were covering their responsibilities and really weren't in a position to make a play...and Swift is pretty damn good in the open field.

I think if you want to assign blame, because that is what my kids like to do...then you have to put it on St-Juste for lolly-gagging. He had the best angle to get Swift after he popped up, but hit looooowwww gear as if the play was over. You can blame McCain for missing the tackle, but at least he was aware and had some intent.

Check that.. St. Juste.. that looks so bad on film. Perhaps he thought Swift dropped the ball.. lol.

BaltimoreSkins
09-21-2022, 11:22 AM
Need to see more of this, Payne and Allen taking on 3 OL and having Jamin free to attack:

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PorkSkins
09-21-2022, 11:44 AM
Chico wrote: McCain has to make that tackle or at the minimum put a shot on him to stop momentum.

It’s infuriating to watch him, Will Jax and Fuller play so inconsistent. We either need a complete rebuild with these 3 or play scheme which allows them to play for their strength.

Concur on both.

MTK wrote: Totally agree. Tossing a player under the bus is 100% the wrong way to go. JDR is trash. I'm done with that bozo. Ron knows better too. These guys ignored the LB spot so they have nobody to blame but themselves.

+1000

skinsfan69 wrote: Check that.. St. Juste.. that looks so bad on film. Perhaps he thought Swift dropped the ball.. lol.

You'd hope that's what he thought, lol.

Chief X_Phackter
09-21-2022, 12:02 PM
McCain has to make that tackle or at the minimum put a shot on him to stop momentum.

It’s infuriating to watch him, Will Jax and Fuller play so inconsistent. We either need a complete rebuild with these 3 or play scheme which allows them to play for their strength.

Yep, there's at least three players that probably could have made the tackle. Bad things happen when you let dudes just run around wide open. Sometimes they can have a seat for a minute and still score.

calia
09-21-2022, 12:29 PM
They need to play with some urgency. Pretend the football is $1 million and it is yours if you tackle the guy. Dotson said at the beginning of the season that he thinks about the football like it's money, and because he likes money, he goes to get it. And he plays like it. Heck, if that's what motivates, fine by me. Go get it. You literally are making millions to tackle people after all.

Now with the link: https://firstsportz.com/nfl-news-i-love-money-jahan-dotson-is-confident-for-his-first-season-in-the-nfl/

Side note -- I don't recall the last time I was as excited about a WR tandem as McLaurin and Dotson. Explosive. And Samuel has looked good this season so far as well. Really happy where we are with that position.

Chief X_Phackter
09-21-2022, 12:45 PM
It's hard to think that there is a better trio out there. And if/when B Rob comes back and we are able to establish a running game, this offense could be pretty potent. Just gotta get that D turned around - so frustrating.

calia
09-21-2022, 12:49 PM
It's hard to think that there is a better trio out there. And if/when B Rob comes back and we are able to establish a running game, this offense could be pretty potent. Just gotta get that D turned around - so frustrating.

Spot on. Our TE situation isn't bad either, although I think Thomas is still recovering from his injury last year. But Bates has been a very good blocker, and Cole Turner should be back soon -- that's a position that is in decent shape as well. An average D would make this team pretty dangerous.

I still wish they'd find some additional LB help -- Blake Martinez is out there. I see the Giants just signed Jaylon Smith. The dude has his issues, but I have to think he's got more to offer than Mayo, for example. Even incremental improvements in the middle and back end of the the defense would be welcome. As would better coaching/scheme. How we had a top 5 D two years ago is beyond me. Seems like an age.

Chief X_Phackter
09-21-2022, 12:59 PM
Spot on. Our TE situation isn't bad either, although I think Thomas is still recovering from his injury last year. But Bates has been a very good blocker, and Cole Turner should be back soon -- that's a position that is in decent shape as well. An average D would make this team pretty dangerous.

I still wish they'd find some additional LB help -- Blake Martinez is out there. I see the Giants just signed Jaylon Smith. The dude has his issues, but I have to think he's got more to offer than Mayo, for example. Even incremental improvements in the middle and back end of the the defense would be welcome. As would better coaching/scheme. How we had a top 5 D two years ago is beyond me. Seems like an age.

This is why I think it will turn around. Even last year for the second half of the season the D was pretty good - if you take out the stretch against DAL/PHI/DAL when they were decimated by injury/COVID.

calia
09-21-2022, 01:09 PM
This is why I think it will turn around. Even last year for the second half of the season the D was pretty good - if you take out the stretch against DAL/PHI/DAL when they were decimated by injury/COVID.

I hope you're right. I will say this, whether it is personnel, scheme or a combo of the two, coming out flatfooted like they did last week just can't happen again. They looked lost. I know that happens occasionally even to good teams (e.g., Green Bay and SF in week 1), but for a team trying to turn things around, they need to be hungrier. Again, the Lions serve as a good model here. I think Siriani's Eagles may as well, unfortunately.

Ruhskins
09-21-2022, 01:18 PM
I hope you're right. I will say this, whether it is personnel, scheme or a combo of the two, coming out flatfooted like they did last week just can't happen again. They looked lost. I know that happens occasionally even to good teams (e.g., Green Bay and SF in week 1), but for a team trying to turn things around, they need to be hungrier. Again, the Lions serve as a good model here. I think Siriani's Eagles may as well, unfortunately.

My issue with the Defense is the coaching staff unwillingness to make a change. And they should make a change, since they are running into the same problems from last year. At this point, they should have learned from last year when they refused to move Collins to the Buffalo nickel and make him a hybrid player.

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