EdmundDorf
09-08-2022, 08:43 AM
If we get the Wentz from the last 2 years 6-11
If we get the Wentz from the 3 previous years 11-6
Sadly I think the former is the most likely.
I would respectfully disagree. Without rehashing the discussion about what happened to Wentz the last two years , I think that having a fresh start in an offense with far more talent at the skill positions and not being relied upon to carry the team on his back , you are more likely to see the "good" Wentz, whether that lasts past this year is another question.
My biggest concern is whether they once again start slow against what should be the easiest part of the schedule forcing them to have go on an unbeaten run mid season just to get into the playoff discussion
skinsfan69
09-08-2022, 09:32 AM
I'll admit it's fairly optimistic, but like I said, I'm not buying into all the hate. I just don't think there's any way they don't have a better record than last year.
The offense should be better than last year with Wentz, a true #2 in Dotson, a healthy Samuel, and basically the same running game - which will only get stronger should B Rob come back at some point.
The defense should be better as well. With the exception of the second Dallas game, they were pretty decent down the stretch last year despite all the injuries and COVID issues.
I agree about the offense. The defense? I disagree. They will still be atrocious on 3rd down.
Chief X_Phackter
09-08-2022, 10:07 AM
If we get the Wentz from the last 2 years 6-11
If we get the Wentz from the 3 previous years 11-6
Sadly I think the former is the most likely.
He didn't have a great year his rookie season (2016), but it's fair to say that most rookie QBs struggle in their first year.
2020 was an off year for him, but he basically had no O-line. Their Center was the only O-lineman that didn't end up on IR that year, and I read somewhere that they went through like 14-15 different O-line combinations that year. I get the argument that a franchise QB should be able to overcome the shortcomings around him - elevate the team despite... but that was just a bad team. He doesn't necessarily get a pass, but you can't put that season all on him. Not even close. Let's not forget, Philly fired the Head Coach two months before they traded Wentz to Indy (for a 1st and 3rd).
It's hard to find a bad year beyond his rookie year and 2020, yet if you listen to the national media, he is a complete scrub. It's somewhat laughable.
WCommandersfan99
09-08-2022, 10:11 AM
I agree about the offense. The defense? I disagree. They will still be atrocious on 3rd down.I am concerned about the d also. If we don't get a pass rush, lbs in coverage may be a huge issue. This is a big year for Del Rio to see if he can get something going.
skinsfan69
09-08-2022, 10:21 AM
I am concerned about the d also. If we don't get a pass rush, lbs in coverage may be a huge issue. This is a big year for Del Rio to see if he can get something going.
In order for them to be a really good d they need serious production from Young. He was the #2 pick in the draft and right now he is out for a while. But when he was healthy last year not much. You just can't miss on that pick. That would hurt any team but especially this one. They need him to be dominate.
Chief X_Phackter
09-08-2022, 11:35 AM
After losing a game they should have won against the Broncos, this team won four in a row against the Buccaneers, Panthers, Seahawks, and Raiders. In that five game stretch against Teddy Bridgewater, Tom Brady, Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, and Derek Carr, the defense only gave up 17 points per game. Then they were blasted by injuries and COVID issues going into five games in a row against Division opponents. According to Mark Gaughan of the Buffalo News, they lost a total of 111 games by starters in 2021. Only the Lions, Ravens, Giants and Jets had worse injury luck last season.
I am on the side of the fence that saw the defense improving last year, only to be snake-bitten for the most important stretch of the season. I see no reason why that improvement can't carry over this year, especially if the offense improves.
rocnrik
09-08-2022, 11:44 AM
7 wins a disaster..
11 wins a miracle…
So Somewhere in the middle .. my gut says 9 wins
The first 2 games are the most important in recent history .. we win those then playing .500 ball the rest of season will get it done , lose the first 2 and it will be a long season ..
Redskins247
09-08-2022, 11:46 AM
I think 7-10. I think they start off slow (like always)...maybe barely beat the Jags but lose to Lions, Eagles, and boys...get better towards the end of the season but too little too late. Defense is bad again and JDR is let go. I really think their only chance at a winning season is Wentz and the passing game are on point because Turner finally has a QB with an arm and they just put up points every week to outscore their bad defense.
Never won more than 10 under Snyder and that won't change this year. 10 wins is the ceiling if things break right. I think more than likely it's 8-9 wins.
skinsfaninok
09-08-2022, 11:58 AM
Never won more than 10 under Snyder and that won't change this year. 10 wins is the ceiling if things break right. I think more than likely it's 8-9 wins.
It's sad but I was more excited about the new brand than I am this season.. Until they actually start winning I will expect losing seasons