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Meks
08-01-2022, 09:19 PM
They we also 4-12 with em one year.. records mean something and until he proves he's a winner I'm not anointing him anything but a qb.. for now. I'm not gonna argue the talent or potential but win a playoff game and start winning games and we'll talk

That Guy
08-02-2022, 12:22 AM
so, NFL can still appeal and say 1 year, and then DW can drag it into court, in which case, I think the NFL has a better case to get its way (but it also keeps DW drama front and center for additional months).

I would have preferred two years :P

Chief X_Phackter
08-02-2022, 01:32 AM
They we also 4-12 with em one year.. records mean something and until he proves he's a winner I'm not anointing him anything but a qb.. for now. I'm not gonna argue the talent or potential but win a playoff game and start winning games and we'll talk

I agree. I mean all I kept hearing from some of those who didn't like the idea of bringing in C Wentz is that a great QB is supposed to elevate all those around him - get the W, find a way to get it done, put the team on your back, etc. Doesn't seem like Watson, as good as he may be, has been able to do that with any consistency.

Going to be interesting to see how he is - coming back from almost a 2 year layoff (or more if the NFL appeals/wins).

Chico23231
08-02-2022, 09:39 AM
Unbelievable Watson just get 6 games.

skinsfaninok
08-02-2022, 10:10 AM
He's also 28-26 in regard to the most important stat of all 🤷

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/carson-wentz-career-record-as-a-starter

Wentz is 44-40 so I agree with you, if Watson is Elite then Wentz is damn good. Similar stats, Wentz led his team to the playoffs as well.

mredskins
08-02-2022, 01:33 PM
Unbelievable Watson just get 6 games.

But don’t call Tom Brady when you are not suppose then you get the real NFL beat down.

See Miami Dolphins

Ruhskins
08-02-2022, 02:00 PM
But don’t call Tom Brady when you are not suppose then you get the real NFL beat down.

See Miami Dolphins

Or bet on games when you're suspended.


The NFLPA gets all hardcore when it comes to protecting sexual predators or reducing practice time. But when it comes to advocate for better financial terms for players they fold like lawn chairs.

mooby
08-02-2022, 02:53 PM
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34334514/nfl-strips-miami-dolphins-2023-first-round-pick-fines-stephen-ross-15m-tampering-tom-brady-sean-payton

This really seems suspect to me. So the Dolphins lose a 1st and a 3rd for talking to Payton and Brady while they were under contract with other teams, but the NFL found no evidence Ross asked Flores to tank?


In February, former Dolphins coach Brian Flores said in his lawsuit alleging racism in the league's hiring practices that Ross attempted to incentivize him to "tank," or purposely lose games, shortly after he was hired in 2019, with Ross allegedly offering Flores $100,000 for every loss that season. Flores alleged that as the team won games late in the season, Dolphins general manager Chris Grier told him Ross was "mad" that the on-field success was "compromising [the team's] draft position."


So you have a GM and a coach that both knew about the owner being pissed they were winning and you also have a coach who put his name on the fucking record that the owner offered him 100k for every game he lost? But there's no evidence? The punishment makes me think the league is cracking them for tanking but using the Brady/Payton tampering as an excuse.

Between this and the Watson shit the league continues to lose major credibility.

mooby
08-02-2022, 02:56 PM
Or bet on games when you're suspended.


The NFLPA gets all hardcore when it comes to protecting sexual predators or reducing practice time. But when it comes to advocate for better financial terms for players they fold like lawn chairs.

The Watson thing it seems was based on the league's punishment of Kraft even though one is an NFL owner getting a consenting handy from a massage parlor and the other is a predator engaging 30-60 unwilling masseuses for happy endings.

It makes no sense. Unprecedented crimes equal unprecedented punishment. And the contract with the salary designed explicitly to avoid major financial penalties for his crimes? That should be punished too.

Our only hope is the Browns pull a Browns and fuck this up like they do almost every year.

SunnySide
08-02-2022, 04:28 PM
6 games for Watson seems fine by me. Seems like others wanted more, and thats fine.

Guy missed an entire season (paid) but unless the victims testified to the NFL investigators (havent heard anything like that) then all there is to go on is civil complaints and settlements (which arent an admission of guilt).

Id think the League wont appeal, they kinda choose to go this neutral arbitrator route to avoid appeals imo and so they can turn around and point to neutral arbitrator for 6 game scorn.

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