2022 Commanders Training Camp discussion

I still question it. Could have got a RB in the later rounds that can do the same things that BR can do. He is basically a one cut and go type of runner. Nothing fancy, he's going to move the chains but he isn't a home run hitter. He isn't special catching it out of the backfield or great in space. I just think this organization is obsessed with Bama players. It's lazy scouting imo.

I used the Shanahans as an example when it came to running backs. I would never take one in the first 3 rounds of a draft. They have had so many no name runners that got a 1,000 yards.

I think the bottom line is they really liked Robinson in Round 3, and there was a need based on Gibson's performance. That's it... Is he "special" at this or that? We'll see once he gets regular season reps against NFL starters. Right now you can't say he is or isn't. There sure seems to be a lot of buzz about him though.

Was he picked too early? You can ask that question every year with every team's picks. To me, if he ends up being the starting RB, which could happen sooner than later, then I think it doesn't matter when he was drafted.

I'm not sure where you get that the Shanahan's don't draft RBs in the first three rounds. While they have found some gems outside the first three rounds, they have both definitely drafted several RBs in the first three rounds.

I still question it. Could have got a RB in the later rounds that can do the same things that BR can do. He is basically a one cut and go type of runner. Nothing fancy, he's going to move the chains but he isn't a home run hitter. He isn't special catching it out of the backfield or great in space. I just think this organization is obsessed with Bama players. It's lazy scouting imo.

I used the Shanahans as an example when it came to running backs. I would never take one in the first 3 rounds of a draft. They have had so many no name runners that got a 1,000 yards.

Kyle drafted a RB in the 3rd round two times in a row - this year and last year. Although Mike might be the exception - without checking, I don't remember Mike drafting one in the first 3 rounds.

Kyle drafted a RB in the 3rd round two times in a row - this year and last year. Although Mike might be the exception - without checking, I don't remember Mike drafting one in the first 3 rounds.

Portis was a 2nd rounder in Denver

Kyle drafted a RB in the 3rd round two times in a row - this year and last year. Although Mike might be the exception - without checking, I don't remember Mike drafting one in the first 3 rounds.

Maurice Clarett, Tatum Bell, Clinton Portis, Detron Smith

I think the bottom line is they really liked Robinson in Round 3, and there was a need based on Gibson's performance. That's it... Is he "special" at this or that? We'll see once he gets regular season reps against NFL starters. Right now you can't say he is or isn't. There sure seems to be a lot of buzz about him though.

Was he picked too early? You can ask that question every year with every team's picks. To me, if he ends up being the starting RB, which could happen sooner than later, then I think it doesn't matter when he was drafted.

I'm not sure where you get that the Shanahan's don't draft RBs in the first three rounds. While they have found some gems outside the first three rounds, they have both definitely drafted several RBs in the first three rounds.

I never said they didn't draft them in the 3rd round. I said if skinsfan69 were a GM I wouldn't draft any...lol. But I am obviously not an NFL GM or coach.

Shanahan's have had a lot of success w/ backs that were taken late... Mike Anderson, Terrell Davis, Arian Foster, Alfred Morris, Olandis Gary to name a few..

I never said they didn't draft them in the 3rd round. I said if skinsfan69 were a GM I wouldn't draft any...lol. But I am obviously not an NFL GM or coach.

Shanahan's have had a lot of success w/ backs that were taken late... Mike Anderson, Terrell Davis, Arian Foster, Alfred Morris, Olandis Gary to name a few..

You said that you used the Shanahans as an example when it came to running backs, and would never take one in the first 3 rounds of a draft.

I took that as you saying the Shanahans never drafted RBs in the first three rounds.

Anyway, as with all draft picks, if they turn out to be productive NFL starters, or even better - game changing superstars, I don't think it matters much where they were picked.

Maurice Clarett, Tatum Bell, Clinton Portis, Detron Smith

Wasn't Alfred Morris a 3rd rounder?

Wasn't Alfred Morris a 3rd rounder?

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Drat!

JDR was very poised and parsimonious with his words in his first press conf since the "dust up" fine. Which is good.
He didn't take any bait regarding the issue. Had "nothing to add". Asked about his Twitter account suppression, he replied "personal choice". That was exactly what he needed to do IMO. Shut up, move on, let's talk ball.

One thing I thought was interesting was, in his reply about the firing of the previous DL coach, "I'd have to defer to Coach [...] I think he spelled that out with you guys, I have nothing to add. [...] Coach has a good sense of what he wants to do, and our job as STAFF MEMBERS is to make it come to life [...]".
I guess technically anybody underneath the Head Coach can be referred to as "coaching staff" but you don't hear a Defensive Coordinator talk about himself as a "staff member". Not trying to read too much into it, but the whole thing sounded like he was actively trying to build this image that he is a mere soldier following Commander Ron's orders. I guess that's a good thing, but with what we know about Jack's personality, you can't help but wonder how long he's going to quietly enjoy this low tone Private Jack's role.

Also, when asked about what he liked about the new DL coach, coach Z, he didn't exactly sound overly excited, and the thing he kept saying was show well "the guys" were responding to him. It really felt like this was a decision the players asked for and Ron made, but not something JDR was really consulted about.

Not trying to find drama where there's maybe nothing at all. But with a lot of us feeling like it's a do or die year for Jack, his relationship with Ron is something to keep an eye on.

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