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FrenchSkin 07-12-2022, 08:12 PM When you say "we just need to give him a chance", I read "let's take a chance".
Glad we have three guys ahead of him on the depth chart. I wouldn't want to be in a position where we're relying on him unless injuries force it. It's not like he's been buried on the depth chart behind Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt, Az Hakim and Ricky Proehl his whole career.
The thing is we don't need to take a chance. Like you said we have guys ahead of him.
For me it was more about predicting who's gonna step up, and with Logan Thomas potentially unavailable to start the season, it's not unlikely that Wentz could enjoy having a big body receiver that has proven he can make some tough contested catches... Now if you wanna say that big target is more likely to be 5th round pick TE Cole Turner than Cam Sims, it's a fair discussion to have, but I wouldn't bet crazy money on either of them, it's July, we're just making conjectures for now.
WCommandersfan99 07-12-2022, 08:18 PM The thing is we don't need to take a chance. Like you said we have guys ahead of him.
For me it was more about predicting who's gonna step up, and with Logan Thomas potentially unavailable to start the season, it's not unlikely that Wentz could enjoy having a big body receiver that has proven he can make some tough contested catches... Now if you wanna say that big target is more likely to be 5th round pick TE Cole Turner than Cam Sims, it's a fair discussion to have, but I wouldn't bet crazy money on either of them, it's July, we're just making conjectures for now.A lot hype for Cole Turner. So much so that people are almost forgetting about Thomas and Bates. I know Thomas may start hurt but he is still a very good player. Bates' blocking is excellent and his receiving is serviceable. Eager to see if Turner is the real deal at tight end catching passes as believed.
Chief X_Phackter 07-12-2022, 09:12 PM I can't figure out Cam Sims. Maybe he's just as you said Schneed - just a guy. I know he has only started 14 games, and played in 38. Perhaps it's telling that he has never played 60% of the offensive snaps. But for some reason, I only remember him making clutch catches. Doubt there is a stat for that, and maybe I'm not remembering correctly. He only has 2 drops in 71 targets - not bad. I don't know...for me I just have to say I don't know due to the QBs that have been throwing to him. If I were to put a bet on who was going to be more productive, or who was going to be that big RZ target, I would have to go with C Sims over C Turner - mostly because of his experience in the offense and in the league. I actually have high hopes for C Sims this year, but they have to be tempered because there are a LOT of weapons on this offense all of a sudden.
WCommandersfan99 07-12-2022, 11:30 PM Sims deserves a new chance considering we have a qb with real tools now. Frankly, don't think Turner cares which receivers work out as long as they are productive. No excuses.
Schneed10 07-13-2022, 08:29 AM I think this Cam Sims discussion is getting a little silly. He will get a chance. But remember, he has gotten a chance every year. The last few years we've had McLaurin and a bunch of jags, and Cam Sims has put up very modest numbers. 2020 was his best season, he put up 477 yards on 32 catches with 1 TD. Last year, even with Samuel hurt, he put up 15 catches for 211 yards.
I don't think the problem is he hasn't gotten a chance. There haven't been world beaters at WR ahead of him. Was Adam Humphries really burying him on the depth chart? If Cam Sims was a good player he would have emerged.
You could say the QB will make a difference. Last year Heinicke threw for 3400 yards, and Wentz threw for 3600. But in 2020 with musical chairs, our QBs threw for 3800 yards.
Add it all up and I can't see Cam Sims going above his 2020 production when he put up 32 catches for 477 yards and two TDs. I think you guys are saying a lot of nonsense about potential production without being grounded in the reality of what has actually happened.
He's just a guy who can occasionally make a play. Don't expect anything more.
WCommandersfan99 07-13-2022, 09:15 AM I think this Cam Sims discussion is getting a little silly. He will get a chance. But remember, he has gotten a chance every year. The last few years we've had McLaurin and a bunch of jags, and Cam Sims has put up very modest numbers. 2020 was his best season, he put up 477 yards on 32 catches with 1 TD. Last year, even with Samuel hurt, he put up 15 catches for 211 yards.
I don't think the problem is he hasn't gotten a chance. There haven't been world beaters at WR ahead of him. Was Adam Humphries really burying him on the depth chart? If Cam Sims was a good player he would have emerged.
You could say the QB will make a difference. Last year Heinicke threw for 3400 yards, and Wentz threw for 3600. But in 2020 with musical chairs, our QBs threw for 3800 yards.
Add it all up and I can't see Cam Sims going above his 2020 production when he put up 32 catches for 477 yards and two TDs. I think you guys are saying a lot of nonsense about potential production without being grounded in the reality of what has actually happened.
He's just a guy who can occasionally make a play. Don't expect anything more.Again, he hasn't had a qb with Wentz's tools especially the arm strength upgrade. Dramatic improvement. Wentz is also much larger than previous Washington qbs too which will help. Not expecting Sims to be Jerry Rice but think he has a good opportunity with the new receivers/tight ends and qb.
I think this Cam Sims discussion is getting a little silly. He will get a chance. But remember, he has gotten a chance every year. The last few years we've had McLaurin and a bunch of jags, and Cam Sims has put up very modest numbers. 2020 was his best season, he put up 477 yards on 32 catches with 1 TD. Last year, even with Samuel hurt, he put up 15 catches for 211 yards.
I don't think the problem is he hasn't gotten a chance. There haven't been world beaters at WR ahead of him. Was Adam Humphries really burying him on the depth chart? If Cam Sims was a good player he would have emerged.
You could say the QB will make a difference. Last year Heinicke threw for 3400 yards, and Wentz threw for 3600. But in 2020 with musical chairs, our QBs threw for 3800 yards.
Add it all up and I can't see Cam Sims going above his 2020 production when he put up 32 catches for 477 yards and two TDs. I think you guys are saying a lot of nonsense about potential production without being grounded in the reality of what has actually happened.
He's just a guy who can occasionally make a play. Don't expect anything more.
I agree I think at this point Sims is who he is. He'll have some big plays, even a big game once or twice a season. More likely than not his ceiling is probably that 2020 season.
EARTHQUAKE2689 07-13-2022, 09:23 AM I think this Cam Sims discussion is getting a little silly. He will get a chance. But remember, he has gotten a chance every year. The last few years we've had McLaurin and a bunch of jags, and Cam Sims has put up very modest numbers. 2020 was his best season, he put up 477 yards on 32 catches with 1 TD. Last year, even with Samuel hurt, he put up 15 catches for 211 yards.
I don't think the problem is he hasn't gotten a chance. There haven't been world beaters at WR ahead of him. Was Adam Humphries really burying him on the depth chart? If Cam Sims was a good player he would have emerged.
You could say the QB will make a difference. Last year Heinicke threw for 3400 yards, and Wentz threw for 3600. But in 2020 with musical chairs, our QBs threw for 3800 yards.
Add it all up and I can't see Cam Sims going above his 2020 production when he put up 32 catches for 477 yards and two TDs. I think you guys are saying a lot of nonsense about potential production without being grounded in the reality of what has actually happened.
He's just a guy who can occasionally make a play. Don't expect anything more.
I 100% agree with you, he is just a guy who every 6 weeks will make a catch that makes you say "Wow" then will go back to just being a guy again.
Just to be clear I like Sims, you need guys like him on your team. He fills an important role.
skinsfaninok 07-13-2022, 09:50 AM Sims is a jumpball type of a WR.. He lacks separation and that's why his targets are low.
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