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FrenchSkin
07-05-2022, 07:13 PM
I really don’t know if there is any major battles, but I’m interested how the rookies fit into their rolls. We took guys who are ready to play, older ages and more experience in the field…the expectation isn’t to sit back and learn but play now and make an impact.

I’m also interested to see how the lack of depth at LB and Corner shakes out. Also who steps into the Buffalo Nickel role…I’m hoping to see Collins resigned if it goes bad.

You know my stance on LB (itsnotonlylackofdepthitslackofstarterswhattheheck aretheywaitingfor), but I don't think we're that short on CB. WJ3, Fuller, St Juste, Danny Johnson is a decent squad IMO, hopefully the 7th round pick Christian Holmes can contribute ?
Don't forget the so called Nickel CB can be a 3rd safety in a lot of cases (or a "don't call him LB" in Collins' case), and with Curl, McCain, Reaves, Forrest and 4th round pick Percy Butler, I think it's safe to say we have decent depth at safety.
Overall, even if you need to have 4 clear starters in your outside CBs+Safeties, I think looking at the overall DB squad, rather than CBs and safeties separately, makes more sense with what NFL secondaries do nowadays.

redskins1
07-05-2022, 08:46 PM
Alot of good post I like it.... Let's Go Commmanders

WCommandersfan99
07-06-2022, 01:29 AM
Hard for me to agree with your perspective on Wentz. He was with good teams in Philly and Indy and IMO his coaches were top-notch. I think he just choked last season due to the pressure of making the playoffs. So, I'd say our QB situation is still shakyHe was the starter in Philly the year they won the Super Bowl for nearly the entire season paving the way until he got hurt. Philly just wanted to see what they had in Hurts and didn't want to mess around with the large contract they just awarded him. Everyone knows Irsay wanted him gone in Indy even though at one point last season he was in discussion as a top qb for the year.

The tools are all there:

1) Size- 6'5" 237 lbs (don't think fans appreciate this enough)
2) Great arm especially deep
3) Mobile which is unusual for his large size. No he's not Lamar Jackson but the guy can move
4) Highly intelligent

What tools does he lack physically? None. He's also at a very good age at 29. Again, he's got all the tools.

WCommandersfan99
07-06-2022, 01:32 AM
I can’t wait to see Wentz throwing the ball to these receivers.

I’m also gonna call something to watch…Logan Thomas probably not gonna be ready due to the injury, but I’ve heard the guys behind him have really been flashing in the spring. The competition at depth should be really good. Lotta head turning in ota’s with guys catching the ball At the TE positionCole Turner looking good. Bates is a very good blocker and catch some too. Also, they are looking at Curtis Hodges 6'8" 240 lbs who can catch also. AGG may be in the mix too.

MTK
07-06-2022, 10:04 AM
While I do think that AG will be the "bell cow" to begin the season, he has to be looking over his shoulder - seeing Robinson right on his tail. Robinson is a true RB, while Gibson was a receiver. I don't think it can be understated, the importance of having been a RB all your football life, as opposed to making that position change at the NFL level. Because of that, and with his injury history and intermittent fumblitis, I wouldn't consider AG a lock.

Definitely anxious to see how the TE position shakes out if LT isn't healthy enough to start week 1.

I also want to see how Howell performs and if Heinicke shows any improvement. Howell likely starts as the #3, but I imagine it's only a matter of time before he is the backup. The only things Heinicke has on him at this point is institutional knowledge, and NFL experience.

Yeah I wouldn't put AG down as a lock either, Robinson was drafted for a reason, he's not coming in as a 3rd rounder to sit. AG needs to up his game and hold on to the damn ball. Otherwise BR is going to cut into his workload very quickly.

MTK
07-06-2022, 10:09 AM
I can’t wait to see Wentz throwing the ball to these receivers.

I’m also gonna call something to watch…Logan Thomas probably not gonna be ready due to the injury, but I’ve heard the guys behind him have really been flashing in the spring. The competition at depth should be really good. Lotta head turning in ota’s with guys catching the ball At the TE position

Cole Turner is looking at a great opportunity early on. Wouldn't be a surprise if Thomas starts off the season on IR.

KI Skins Fan
07-06-2022, 10:13 AM
He was the starter in Philly the year they won the Super Bowl for nearly the entire season paving the way until he got hurt. Philly just wanted to see what they had in Hurts and didn't want to mess around with the large contract they just awarded him. Everyone knows Irsay wanted him gone in Indy even though at one point last season he was in discussion as a top qb for the year.

The tools are all there:

1) Size- 6'5" 237 lbs (don't think fans appreciate this enough)
2) Great arm especially deep
3) Mobile which is unusual for his large size. No he's not Lamar Jackson but the guy can move
4) Highly intelligent

What tools does he lack physically? None. He's also at a very good age at 29. Again, he's got all the tools.

I already know all about his toolset. What's that got to do with his main problem which is choking? Once a player chokes like he did at Indy, it's very hard for the other players to ever trust him again. That's why Irsay wanted him gone. If he does well this season until he chokes away our chance to make the playoffs he'll be gone from here, too. That's why our QB room is unsettled. Let's hope he's seeing a sports psychologist.

KI Skins Fan
07-06-2022, 10:28 AM
Cole Turner is looking at a great opportunity early on. Wouldn't be a surprise if Thomas starts off the season on IR.

Cole Turner may get some playing time but I think John Bates would probably be the starter at TE if Logan Thomas is unable to go right away. For one thing, Bates has some experience. Also, Bates had the highest PFF run blocking score of any TE in the NFL last season at 87.6, based on 248 run blocking snaps. That score was more that 10 points higher than the second ranked run blocking score for a TE in 2021. To me, that is a big deal. When did we last have a TE who could block like that?

MTK
07-06-2022, 10:36 AM
Cole Turner may get some playing time but I think John Bates would probably be the starter at TE if Logan Thomas is unable to go right away. For one thing, Bates has some experience. Also, Bates had the highest PFF run blocking score of any TE in the NFL last season at 87.6, based on 248 run blocking snaps. That score was more that 10 points higher than the second ranked run blocking score for a TE in 2021. To me, that is a big deal. When did we last have a TE who could block like that?

I like Bates a lot too, I just think Turner might have the more intriguing skill set as a receiving TE.

Ruhskins
07-06-2022, 11:00 AM
I already know all about his toolset. What's that got to do with his main problem which is choking? Once a player chokes like he did at Indy, it's very hard for the other players to ever trust him again. That's why Irsay wanted him gone. If he does well this season until he chokes away our chance to make the playoffs he'll be gone from here, too. That's why our QB room is unsettled. Let's hope he's seeing a sports psychologist.

I don't get how one bad season, and one particularly bad game makes someone automatically a choker. Is it just because Jim Irsay put that out there, and people are believing it?

When he was here, Kirk Cousins had his bad moments in key games, but I wouldn't necessarily call him a choker.

I think Wentz has a lot to prove, but I feel many fans and some people in the media, have bought in to what Irsay has been putting out there.

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