mredskins
03-15-2022, 12:37 PM
QB1 Film Session: What is Washington getting in QB Carson Wentz this year? (https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/3/15/22977762/qb1-film-session-what-is-washington-getting-in-qb-carson-wentz-this-year)
Worth the read/watch
I keep coming back to it but folks got watch Hard Knocks Colts. The last four games the Colts were 2-2, they were destroyed by COVID in the majority of the games, literally playing with make shift O line play plus the center Kelly dealing with a lost of a child. Carson was a game manager in the Pats win they went JT heavy, Carson was a major reason they won at ARZ on Xmas, he tied up the Raiders it was the D that couldn't hold LV at the end and he had a sub par game against JAX but Colts D shit the bed too.
Honestly looking at all that and his yearly totals, CW was not the Colts problem their problem was COVID. I guess it's Irsay who made this decision but IMO it was knee jerk reaction. Maybe on a 1-1 level he just didn't like CW, it happens.
In the end we shall see but considering all variables Wentz is/was the best the Commanders were ever going to do at QB at least for this off season.
skinsfan69
03-15-2022, 12:39 PM
Yes that is true, but the rumours being spread about Wentz were that he was bad in the lockerroom and these comments from teammates help to disprove that narrative
Yeah the Sproles thing was pretty bad. Alshawn Jeffrey didn't really care too much for him, neither did Duece Staley. Sounds like Wentz was pouting a bit because the players seemed to like Foles better. And also was being babied by Peterson. Perhaps it was all a learning experience for him. No more excuses for him at this point. This is probably his last chance at being a full time starter.
skinsfan69
03-15-2022, 12:44 PM
Worth the read/watch
I keep coming back to it but folks got watch Hard Knocks Colts. The last four games the Colts were 2-2, they were destroyed by COVID in the majority of the games, literally playing with make shift O line play plus the center Kelly dealing with a lost of a child. Carson was a game manager in the Pats win they went JT heavy, Carson was a major reason they won at ARZ on Xmas, he tied up the Raiders it was the D that couldn't hold LV at the end and he had a sub par game against JAX but Colts D shit the bed too.
Honestly looking at all that and his yearly totals, CW was not the Colts problem their problem was COVID. I guess it's Irsay who made this decision but IMO it was knee jerk reaction. Maybe on a 1-1 level he just didn't like CW, it happens.
In the end we shall see but considering all variables Wentz is/was the best the Commanders were ever going to do at QB at least for this off season.
I watched it. I didn't see much about the guy where he acted like a diva. That last episode he really didn't show much leadership when the team really needed him. It was kinda cringe... Darius Leonard was the obvious alpha on the team. He was the unquestioned leader and a really good player as well.
skinsfan69
03-15-2022, 12:50 PM
Well then, maybe in a year or two we can trade him for an all-pro tackle...
Yep. That was Bobby B at his best. And that is why I always say draft QB's. As bad as Jay was in spots, he was also good enough to win a couple play off games and got us to an NFC Championship. He still had value when his time was up in DC.
mredskins
03-15-2022, 01:00 PM
I watched it. I didn't see much about the guy where he acted like a diva. That last episode he really didn't show much leadership when the team really needed him. It was kinda cringe... Darius Leonard was the obvious alpha on the team. He was the unquestioned leader and a really good player as well.
I agree
And you like to see more of that from CW(QB1) but also to be fair i don't believe he is a locker room cancer.
You know who is pretty good at QB1 but isn't necessarily the leader or a leader on his team? Lamar Jackson, he is not even a Captain for the Ravens. He maybe in the history of league MVPs the only one who was/is not a Captain.
My point is you don't have to be the alpha leader of your team to be a effective QB1.
skinsfaninok
03-15-2022, 01:05 PM
The Browns wanted Wentz , now Watson.. I wonder if DC Media will still question the trade now...
EdmundDorf
03-15-2022, 01:15 PM
I agree
And you like to see more of that from CW(QB1) but also to be fair i don't believe he is a locker room cancer.
You know who is pretty good at QB1 but isn't necessarily the leader or a leader on his team? Lamar Jackson, he is not even a Captain for the Ravens. He maybe in the history of league MVPs the only one who was/is not a Captain.
My point is you don't have to be the alpha leader of your team to be a effective QB1.
True, but one of Ron's strengths is developing leadership and accountability so there is reason to have some optimism that playing for Ron will be good for him and therefore us.
skinsfaninok
03-16-2022, 09:57 AM
To put this into perspective,
Mitch Trubisky's highest graded season is a 63
That is Carson Wentz's worst season
It was basically down to those 2 guys for us..
That Guy
03-16-2022, 08:14 PM
I would have been so mad if it was Trubisky.
I would have wanted Jimmy G, but the team talked to the 49ers at the combine, so at that point, I figured that was out (and everyone else turned us down). They really did the only thing they could do to upgrade the position. (a rookie would have been a coin flip at best and probably not very good in year 1). I'm still not against drafting a guy. Wentz is better for now, but QB probably isn't 'solved' here.
SunnySide
03-17-2022, 12:15 PM
https://youtu.be/9OSchQi_jw8
^^ Wentz press conf ... Ron opened with a Happy Thanksgiving .. Carson thanked people then took Q&A
https://youtu.be/2audMmrUMU4
^^ Carson 1 on 1 interview w Julie Donaldson, havent watched this yet
https://youtu.be/iik25wqIuFo
^^ clip of a tense exchange btw Carson had w Ben Standing at the end, not taking anymore questions .. Standing was being pushy but not a good first look for Carson