Welcome Carson Wentz

Now you're just being irrational about the value of 2nd and 3rd rounders. They could be good, they could be complete non contributors, and they could end up as depth guys.

On the layup issue, I agree that's a problem, and ultimately what stops him from being considered anything better than an average starter. At the same time Bridgewater has never thrown for 27 touchdowns. So he might make layups but that's all he makes. Jameis, well he makes half court shots but he also turns the ball over like crazy.

I think you're looking at having to commit more guaranteed money to Teddy and Jameis than you think. There are still teams out there thirsty for QBs. Let's revisit this in a few weeks once those guys have signed. Bet you feel better about not having any guaranteed money committed to Wentz once you see what those guys get on the market.

What I'm trying to say is I'd rather have my draft picks and take a chance on getting a free agent- Bridgwater, Trubisky, Winston, Mariota over giving up my picks and getting Wentz. To me Wentz isn't any better than the guys I just listed. If I struck out w/ all of them then I'm going back to Taylor/Allen and I am drafting someone.

What I'm trying to say is I'd rather have my draft picks and take a chance on getting a free agent- Bridgwater, Trubisky, Winston, Mariota over giving up my picks and getting Wentz. To me Wentz isn't any better than the guys I just listed. If I struck out w/ all of them then I'm going back to Taylor/Allen and I am drafting someone.

That basically assures that they start the season with Heinicke at QB, which would be the ultimate offseason failure.

And perhaps so would the Philly coach who benched him.

So you know more about Wentz than Doug P? He benched him for Hurts. Then management decided Hurts was better and traded him after they fired Doug P. Now after a year Indy has passed and traded him to the team that always takes an L on QB trades.

I had an over season win total of 9.5 for the Colts. All they had to do was beat Jacksonville and I got $500. I proceeded to watch Wentz just fall apart. He couldn't do anything right when they needed him the most. Total choker against the worst team in football. Dude isn't a baller at all.

All you had to say was that Wentz lost you money. I'd be mad too, but that's why I don't gamble.

All you had to say was that Wentz lost you money. I'd be mad too, but that's why I don't gamble.

yeah but still I never really liked him before that. just don't think much of him as a QB. never have.

That basically assures that they start the season with Heinicke at QB, which would be the ultimate offseason failure.

Yup.

That basically assures that they start the season with Heinicke at QB, which would be the ultimate offseason failure.

Not really. You just won 7 w/ him when the team had a shitty defense. How many do you win next year w/ Wentz? I'm calling it right now, 6-9 wins. He won't get them to 10 wins.

I had an over season win total of 9.5 for the Colts. All they had to do was beat Jacksonville and I got $500. I proceeded to watch Wentz just fall apart. He couldn't do anything right when they needed him the most. Total choker against the worst team in football. Dude isn't a baller at all.

Kyle Smith wouldn’t have made this stupid trade.

Not really. You just won 7 w/ him when the team had a shitty defense. How many do you win next year w/ Wentz? I'm calling it right now, 6-9 wins. He won't get them to 10 wins.

The schedule sets up pretty nicely actually. I can definitely see 10 or more wins on that schedule. If Wentz plays well they should compete for the Division at a minimum.

Kyle Smith wouldn’t have made this stupid trade.

Let it go man. He's been gone over a year now...