Welcome Carson Wentz


Chief X_Phackter
03-09-2022, 05:24 PM
You guys kill me w/ your stat sheets. lol.

You killing me with your eye test evaluations.

mooby
03-09-2022, 05:26 PM
Don't love it - don't hate it either. Mostly negative feelings because he's not the quarterback he used to be and I don't think stats tell the true story. This board loves to shit on Kirk because he puts up good stats but doesn't elevate the Vikings to the next level - I feel the same way about Wentz. He didn't even show up in the biggest game of the year last year for the Colts.

Would we take 27/7 if it meant another 7-10 record? Would you take 16/15 if we went 10-7?

If Scott Turner is the offensive coordinator Ron thinks he is - and Wentz is a pleasant surprise his stock will go up. If not we're gonna look like bitches - because no-top tier qb wants to even look in our direction and we gave up a pair of 3rd rounders - or worse a 3 and a 2nd - for a has been qb.

Ruhskins
03-09-2022, 05:28 PM
Watch him when his team needed him the most. He shit all over himself against the worst team in the league. Winning QB's don't do that.

I have just never really been a fan of the guy. It's like the league caught up to him and he had no change up. He is always trying to make superman plays ducking under the d-linemen, then he either fumbles or takes horrible sacks. He just makes way too many bad plays. He is a bigger version of RG3.

Again, when two teams move on from you that is just a really bad sign. Real bad. Ballard is a solid GM, he's not going to just get rid of his starting QB for no reason.

Ballard gave up a first for Wentz. He's not a solid GM by your argument.

I don't love this move, but I'm not going out of my way to say that it was terrible.

Chief X_Phackter
03-09-2022, 05:31 PM
Ballard gave up a first for Wentz. He's not a solid GM by your argument.

I don't love this move, but I'm not going out of my way to say that it was terrible.

A first and a 3rd.

MTK
03-09-2022, 05:33 PM
Ballard gave up a first for Wentz. He's not a solid GM by your argument.

I don't love this move, but I'm not going out of my way to say that it was terrible.

:laughing2

Ruhskins
03-09-2022, 05:33 PM
Don't love it - don't hate it either. Mostly negative feelings because he's not the quarterback he used to be and I don't think stats tell the true story. This board loves to shit on Kirk because he puts up good stats but doesn't elevate the Vikings to the next level - I feel the same way about Wentz. He didn't even show up in the biggest game of the year last year for the Colts.

Would we take 27/7 if it meant another 7-10 record? Would you take 16/15 if we went 10-7?

If Scott Turner is the offensive coordinator Ron thinks he is - and Wentz is a pleasant surprise his stock will go up. If not we're gonna look like bitches - because no-top tier qb wants to even look in our direction and we gave up a pair of 3rd rounders - or worse a 3 and a 2nd - for a has been qb.

I don't think giving up a pair of 3rd rounders is the worst thing, if it allows you to wait until the draft and see if you can get a QB at #11 or it gives you the ability to trade down.

Wentz is just a bridge QB, and I do prefer a 1-year and a way out, than overpaying Winston/Trubisky/Mariota for two years.

And yes, giving up a pair of 3rd rounders is overpaying, but that happens with QBs.

Chief X_Phackter
03-09-2022, 05:35 PM
Don't love it - don't hate it.

I think it's a bit premature to say he is a 'has been' QB though. He's been in the league a whopping six years. He had a bad year on a bad Eagles team in 2020. He had a pretty good year last year, and four of the last five years. That Colts defense didn't do them any favors in that last game giving up 26 points to the Jags - and that O-line didn't do them any favors allowing six sacks. You can put it all on Wentz I guess since he's the QB, but I'm not sure that is a fair overall evaluation of what happened.

skinsfan69
03-09-2022, 05:39 PM
You killing me with your eye test evaluations.

He has failed w/ TWO teams w/ TWO coaches that PLAYED QB in the NFL..lol. Think about that for a minute. You're saying I'm judging him by an eye test?? If these two coaches can not get him right but Scott Turner is supposed to?? hahaha.

Now you've got your cap space taken up by this bum. How do you re-sign McKissic??

This is such a swing for the fences move by Ron. I have lost all faith in him now. He isn't a GM. He is just a so so coach w/ a losing record.

skinsfan69
03-09-2022, 05:42 PM
I don't think giving up a pair of 3rd rounders is the worst thing, if it allows you to wait until the draft and see if you can get a QB at #11 or it gives you the ability to trade down.

Wentz is just a bridge QB, and I do prefer a 1-year and a way out, than overpaying Winston/Trubisky/Mariota for two years.

And yes, giving up a pair of 3rd rounders is overpaying, but that happens with QBs.

Giving up the picks isn't bad if you are let's say the Rams. We ain't that. We need those to help upgrade a roster w/ a lot of holes.

skinsfan69
03-09-2022, 05:48 PM
Ballard gave up a first for Wentz. He's not a solid GM by your argument.

I don't love this move, but I'm not going out of my way to say that it was terrible.

Yep... and he did what a good GM does, admits his mistake right away, then finds a sucker to make up for that mistake and washes his hands of it.

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