Name Reveal 2.2.22


FrenchSkin
01-05-2022, 08:01 PM
Btw, since everybody on Twitter is playing armchair detective, here are all the names and logo I could find in the 7min vid, in slow mo.
Wouldn't make too much out of it. Except maybe all those are most likely not the name.

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WillH
01-05-2022, 08:25 PM
I'll still root for the team because I can't root for any other one, and I'll still come to this site because there's no better place to talk ball.



In the end I think the only thing that changes is that I won't spend a dime on this franchise if the name is a boring military one. No way I spend 100$+ on a Commanders jersey. No way I spend God knows the F how much to travel to an empty/filled with opposing fans stadium to root for a team with no identity, no fight song, nothing for the fans to get together and cheer...I feel you. Truth be told, I don't think I can root for another team either. Football has always been a passion, but as I've gotten older I've come to realize that as a culture we've divorced ourselves from personal responsibility expecting society/government to solve our problems for us so that we can focus our time, money, and energy on entertaining ourselves. Hence the exorbitant money actors, musicians, and athletes make while our elders are shoved into 100 sq ft rooms alone cared for by people that don't know or really care about them (although many are good people but are not given the resources to do their jobs well). Anyways, I'm trying to change in this regard personally, and the Redskins was one thing I really had a hard time letting go of. Football is a beautiful sport, and I hate to let it go, but it's hard to watch these days anyways, it's one long commercial for corporations that have destroyed small business and taken jobs from our citizens because they are propped up by big government and or commercials for the military. Ethically, it has become difficult to support the NFL, and it's nearly impossible to ignore. So, I was wavering anyways, and ultimately the nostalgia, the comradery, and the love of the sport/fandom attached to this franchise kept me around, but ignoring the fans vote because of the cost is too much for me to get past. I also suspect that there are corporate implications that have steered the decision. Those that sponsor the team likely had more say than the fans. So fuck them. They can have their team. I'm going to focus my energy in things I can control and will no longer live by "their" whims when it comes to my passions. I will pop in occasionally to cheer you all on if the team accomplishes anything. I love this community and appreciate sharing my passion with you all for so many years.

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mooby
01-05-2022, 08:59 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtonNFL/comments/rwtgi4/detailed_evidence_redtails_may_be_wft_rebrand_name/

Reddit sleuth with a compelling argument for Redtails.

On the choice of names I like Redtails more than Commanders. Surely the team has to know Commanders is so bland and generic it would never work. Same thing with Admirals.

rocnrik
01-05-2022, 09:09 PM
Will , I hear you .. but if you are trying to flee corporate America then it’s not much left .. Money controls everything.. From the cradle to the grave! Being a fan I’m just trying to find a little diversion in the daily struggle to get by .. Redskin football is that escape .. I have other passions but as a fan this team has entertained me for over 40 years ! I lived the Glory days cheering with my dear Grand parents .. they were big fans !! I was with them for all the Super Bowl seasons !! That is Priceless!
In a strange way even the disfunction of the Snyder era has been a form of entertainment in and of itself .. long ago I lowered my expectations so I don’t really get mad anymore .. I the Grand Scheme it’s just entertainment!
My personal feeling is I would have never coward down and changed the name but Thats just me .. so here we are ,some of us ready to throw in the towel for good .. some on the fence .. some never were fans to begin with .. the diehards will stick it out !! Heck it fixin to get real entertaining .. with the name and all the fallout from that , the search for a QB , the stadium .. the untold scandals that await us … Hollywood can’t make movies this good .. heck no I’m not leaving I’m gonna continue to be a fan and watch the show good or bad ..

WillH
01-05-2022, 09:11 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtonNFL/comments/rwtgi4/detailed_evidence_redtails_may_be_wft_rebrand_name/



Reddit sleuth with a compelling argument for Redtails.



On the choice of names I like Redtails more than Commanders. Surely the team has to know Commanders is so bland and generic it would never work. Same thing with Admirals.Interesting, they might fuck around and keep me interested. I can fuck with some cognitive dissonance and cheer on a bird indigenous to the area that I feel a connection to.

That said, I can totally see them going with something super generic to avoid backlash from the woke contingent. I also wouldn't put it past them to not realize how many people would feel apathetic toward how generic it is.

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WillH
01-05-2022, 09:17 PM
Will , I hear you .. but if you are trying to flee corporate America then it’s not much left .. Money controls everything.. From the cradle to the grave! Being a fan I’m just trying to find a little diversion in the daily struggle to get by .. Redskin football is that escape .. I have other passions but as a fan this team has entertained me for over 40 years ! I lived the Glory days cheering with my dear Grand parents .. they were big fans !! I was with them for all the Super Bowl seasons !! That is Priceless!

In a strange way even the disfunction of the Snyder era has been a form of entertainment in and of itself .. long ago I lowered my expectations so I don’t really get mad anymore .. I the Grand Scheme it’s just entertainment!

My personal feeling is I would have never coward down and changed the name but Thats just me .. so here we are ,some of us ready to throw in the towel for good .. some on the fence .. some never were fans to begin with .. the diehards will stick it out !! Heck it fixin to get real entertaining .. with the name and all the fallout from that , the search for a QB , the stadium .. the untold scandals that await us … Hollywood can’t make movies this good .. heck no I’m not leaving I’m gonna continue to be a fan and watch the show good or bad ..I find learning new skills is something noone else can own but me. I may have to purchase tools from people I despise, but I own what I make with them. I do think we can take it back, and they may just force us to.

That said, I 100% get where you are coming from, and begrudge noone for finding relief where they can find it.



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rocnrik
01-05-2022, 09:21 PM
Regarding the Name Commanders.. at first I hated it , then someone on this forum bought it to attention that it is a reference to George Washington which the city is named after .. he was the Commander in chief .. a reference was made to the Buffalo Bills .. Bill Cody etc . Looking at it that way made more sense .. I still would have preferred red wolves but IF it’s commanders I can live with it .. i don’t get the admirals and the redtails doesn’t make me think of a hawk .. let’s face it we can find fault with ANY name .. we all agree that the greatest name/logo brand was the Redskins and apparently a lot of people thought it was horribly Rascist.. so what do I know😀

Swarley
01-05-2022, 10:15 PM
I think in terms of "actual" possibilities I'd be pretty happy with Sentinals, Hogs, or RedTails. If it's Commanders I'll eventually get over but really hard meh.

nonniey
01-06-2022, 12:38 AM
Coming back to say a final goodbye to you all. It's been awhile since I've posted, but if the new name is any of these generic ass military ranks, I'm out for good. I have no connection with the military, despise the forever wars and want no part of rooting for a team that celebrates that. Yeah I appreciate the sacrifice and bravery of the individual men, but fuck the federal government, and for that matter if it's the Monuments, fuck that too. The soul of DC had never belonged to them, this team represented the regular people that lived there, not the fucking oligarchs or their genocidal powers. Redwolves, War hogs, or something else we could build a fun identity or give a nod to the old, I'd have been there for. I have them a chance to do this right, but they've of course failed again. This franchise is over, and Dan Snyder asking with the SJWs have destroyed it. I wish you all the best, and I'm sad as shit this is over, but it's time to move on from this abusive relationship. Hail to the Redskins!

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That is overreacting a bit. Just ignore what they call them and you go on calling them the Redskins and only buy Redskins gear (if you buy). The latter actually hits the NFL and Snyder in the pocket as Redskins gear is now only sold by independent businesses.

sdskinsfan2001
01-06-2022, 01:16 AM
Reddit sleuth with a compelling argument for Redtails.

On the choice of names I like Redtails more than Commanders. Surely the team has to know Commanders is so bland and generic it would never work. Same thing with Admirals.

Redtails has an amazing history in America. The biggest complaints I see about this name are 8th grade jokes that can be spun-off it. That's not a good reason to not use a name. It's like not using Redskins because 4th graders can say foreskins.

Another issue, which I agree with, is that's it's similar to using Redskins. I think Native Americans have an awesome history, and Redskins was an honorable name. And 99.99% of all Redskins fans either don't even care it references Native Americans or think it's awesome because it does. 00.01% like the name for the racist connotation. In the end, it didn't matter.

Using Redtails opens up arguments off of trying to profit off of a minority group, etc. And it's a 100% guarantee that will happen. Also, frankly, I don't think Snyder has earned the right to use such a great historical reference.

I don't think we should use any name that is human related altogether. It looks like that is going to happen though.

Really wish it could have been Redwolves, Wolves, or Hogs.

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