The stadium thread 2: New stadium boogaloo

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JackLord
01-21-2022, 10:01 AM
Nah, I mean I can't speak for everybody but it's a fairly common arrangement around here for cops to work OT security details (that the requesting venue pays for) at grocery stores/stadiums/etc. - all those cops you see working at Fedex on gamedays are probably all getting OT that's paid for by the WFT/league - there is no way in hell a department would shift most of its' resources to working a game and leave coverage thin everywhere else.

They should pay for it. It is the least they can do. NFL stadiums are the poster boy for corporate welfare.

Sports Stadiums are really not revenue sources for municipalities. If they were, Maryland, Virginia, and DC would be lining up to pay for Snyder's new place and the locals would be cheering it on. This is clearly not the case.

IMHO Dan should take a page from Cook and offer to pay for the whole thing himself. It would be yet another opportunity for him to rehabilitate his heavily damaged image.

:cool:

Giantone
01-21-2022, 11:06 AM
Nah, I mean I can't speak for everybody but it's a fairly common arrangement around here for cops to work OT security details (that the requesting venue pays for) at grocery stores/stadiums/etc. - all those cops you see working at Fedex on gamedays are probably all getting OT that's paid for by the WFT/league - there is no way in hell a department would shift most of its' resources to working a game and leave coverage thin everywhere else.

Not in Uniform, two different things. Sitting off duty in your car at a Mall(just an example) is one thing .Fully dressed on game day with guns and all they have to be on duty. Now can they work game security not in uniform absolutely and many do.

Giantone
01-21-2022, 11:17 AM
They should pay for it. It is the least they can do. NFL stadiums are the poster boy for corporate welfare.

Sports Stadiums are really not revenue sources for municipalities. If they were, Maryland, Virginia, and DC would be lining up to pay for Snyder's new place and the locals would be cheering it on. This is clearly not the case.

IMHO Dan should take a page from Cook and offer to pay for the whole thing himself. It would be yet another opportunity for him to rehabilitate his heavily damaged image.

:cool:

He can't. A good deal of the WFT wealth evaluation is in the Stadium and property itself. Think of it as your own home. There is value in it as long as it's in a desirable location and is in good shape. If it isn't, you can still sell it but you won't get top dollar for it and that is one of the big problems for Snyder. The other is the lease deal that JKC made with Maryland , if they leave before it's paid they must pay back all the infrastructure money the State of Maryland spent ,roads ,new exits on the Beltway and a walk to train station will cost the team plenty, I think there are 5 years left on the deal(not sure). A new state of the Art place like in LA will cost 3-4 billion and Snyder doesn't have it. He's wealthy don't get me wrong but he can't swing that.

mooby
01-21-2022, 11:22 AM
Not in Uniform, two different things. Sitting off duty in your car at a Mall(just an example) is one thing .Fully dressed on game day with guns and all they have to be on duty. Now can they work game security not in uniform absolutely and many do.

Prince William and Fairfax County both offer OT opportunities where you're in uniform with a patrol car - Wegmans is a prime example. Wouldn't be surprised if MoCo is the same way - a lot of agencies around here share resources and work together.

I'm telling you there's absolutely no way Montgomery County PD is paying the dime for 100+ officers to stand around at Fedex Field for 4+ hours on gameday - the team is paying for that.

Giantone
01-21-2022, 11:45 AM
Prince William and Fairfax County both offer OT opportunities where you're in uniform with a patrol car - Wegmans is a prime example. Wouldn't be surprised if MoCo is the same way - a lot of agencies around here share resources and work together.

I'm telling you there's absolutely no way Montgomery County PD is paying the dime for 100+ officers to stand around at Fedex Field for 4+ hours on gameday - the team is paying for that.

It's PG County but I 'm basing my statement on a friend who was a NJ State Trooper and would work the Meadowlands.

BaltimoreSkins
01-21-2022, 11:47 AM
Prince William and Fairfax County both offer OT opportunities where you're in uniform with a patrol car - Wegmans is a prime example. Wouldn't be surprised if MoCo is the same way - a lot of agencies around here share resources and work together.

I'm telling you there's absolutely no way Montgomery County PD is paying the dime for 100+ officers to stand around at Fedex Field for 4+ hours on gameday - the team is paying for that.

I used to work part time for an event management team. Putting on races part of the expenditures was paying the jurisdiction for the necessary street closures and other need services EMT etc.

JackLord
01-21-2022, 12:07 PM
Prince William and Fairfax County both offer OT opportunities where you're in uniform with a patrol car - Wegmans is a prime example. Wouldn't be surprised if MoCo is the same way - a lot of agencies around here share resources and work together.

I'm telling you there's absolutely no way Montgomery County PD is paying the dime for 100+ officers to stand around at Fedex Field for 4+ hours on gameday - the team is paying for that.

I would hope not. FedEx is in PG County. ;)

mooby
01-22-2022, 05:33 PM
It's PG County but I 'm basing my statement on a friend who was a NJ State Trooper and would work the Meadowlands.

Thanks for the correction - not sure why I thought it was MoCo. Every state is different, and even counties can do things differently. With the budget issues PGC has I don't see them spending that kind of money on gamedays.

REDSKINS4ever
01-22-2022, 06:35 PM
I would love for a stadium to built in DC.....but it's looking less and less likely since Virginia is in the running now.

CRedskinsRule
01-22-2022, 08:44 PM
I would love for a stadium to built in DC.....but it's looking less and less likely since Virginia is in the running now.I really thought all the attention to the DC flag in the rebrand was an attempt to get in good graces to build on the RFK site.

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