Giants postgame

This is why I think the D will get better. Del Rio will adjust to his personnel whereas training camp and preseason is trying to get them comfortable in his. That said, the Bills are going to eat this Defense alive.

Sent from my SM-G973U using TapatalkI actually don't know if Ron and JDR are gonna change anything to their scheme. I heard Ron several times saying how he needs guys to play their responsibilities. That guys were free lancing. And maybe he's right (ie on the CB blitz sack by Fuller, CY almost tripped him because he wanted to make a play instead of going inside on the LT to clean the way). Plus he said from day want he wanted things done his way, that he'll take all the blame if it goes wrong as long as guys do it his way. Coach centric approach.
And Jack seems like a tough mind too, so not sure either of them changes anything before players do exactly as their told.
Maybe it'll work that way, we'll see.

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I actually don't know if Ron and JDR are gonna change anything to their scheme. I heard Ron several times saying how he needs guys to play their responsibilities. That guys were free lancing. And maybe he's right (ie on the CB blitz sack by Fuller, CY almost tripped him because he wanted to make a play instead of going inside on the LT to clean the way). Plus he said from day want he wanted things done his way, that he'll take all the blame if it goes wrong as long as guys do it his way. Coach centric approach.
And Jack seems like a tough mind too, so not sure either of them changes anything before players do exactly as their told.
Maybe it'll work that way, we'll see.

Envoyé de mon SHV48 en utilisant TapatalkYeah, you are right. But I do think they will use the game tape to clarify expectations and roles. I also think they have to have some level of adaptability on the coaching side, but like you said, they may not have that.

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On either side of the ball, the way to coach is to bring in players that fit/improve your scheme, or build a scheme that caters to the strengths of your players. Seems this coaching staff has been trying the former as I haven't seen a great deal of adapting schemes over the last 2 years. It seems more like they are trying to build sustainable schemes and picking the players accordingly. But then they have gone after or retained the odd player that doesn't seem, to fit the scheme, like Collins. I'm not sure WJ3 is one of those guys yet, or if its teething troubles with new starters on D not yet gelling. But it needs fixing quickly.

Strangely enough, it seems like after 2 games its the D that needs more fixing than the O (thought that still needs work).

When it comes to our defense, it does have the ability to get better, but we need to move some pieces around.

Going into the off-season, most here correctly observed we needed a rangy free safety and more talent at LB.

We have the cap space. I don’t the new front office did a good job, hopefully they will prove me wrong by years end.

I actually don't know if Ron and JDR are gonna change anything to their scheme. I heard Ron several times saying how he needs guys to play their responsibilities. That guys were free lancing. And maybe he's right (ie on the CB blitz sack by Fuller, CY almost tripped him because he wanted to make a play instead of going inside on the LT to clean the way). Plus he said from day want he wanted things done his way, that he'll take all the blame if it goes wrong as long as guys do it his way. Coach centric approach.
And Jack seems like a tough mind too, so not sure either of them changes anything before players do exactly as their told.
Maybe it'll work that way, we'll see.

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Do your job. Collins hasn't done his job since he has been here. And then watching him get out ran by Jones is laughable.

As far as Del Rio idk, when it is 3rd and 16 and you haven't been getting pressure all day I feel like you have to send a blitz, get Herbert to throw it quickly and make a tackle. Instead he rushed 4 and let Herbert pat the ball and make an accurate throw, while the db's looked lost in zone.

Agree, Collins need to go after the season. He seems like a peg in a square hole defense. Ron has constantly said we need position flexibility especially in the secondary. Collins seems to be the most expensive, least flexible position on the team.

He is not a fit here

It is frustrating. Especially after hearing about how the coaching staff wanted to use him in the hybrid format in the offseason. I liked the idea of him replacing a linebacker in pass coverage. We have yet to see it manifest.

It is frustrating. Especially after hearing about how the coaching staff wanted to use him in the hybrid format in the offseason. I liked the idea of him replacing a linebacker in pass coverage. We have yet to see it manifest.

The obvious question to me no one is asking…is he the guy causing the problems in the secondary right now?

Seems like the secondary wasn’t having these problems last year

The obvious question to me no one is asking…is he the guy causing the problems in the secondary right now?

Seems like the secondary wasn’t having these problems last year

Well there are two new CBs in the there this year, one of whom is a rookie and the other being asked to modify the way he plays. But I think it is also not a coincidence that things tightened up last year after he got injured, when Kurl became the full time SS.

Bostic is the obvious sore thumb here, question is how many other guys are not paying full attention to their responsibility to keep pan eye on Bostic. If you look at the blown play the TE blew past Bostic and Collins came down to cover him. It has been a point of emphasis from the coaches about taking care of your job and not always trying to be the guy who makes the play. I think too many guys may be pressing too hard to make plays, Chase Young in particular, and the whole scheme falls apart when that happens

I think the secondary is probably still figuring out how to play together. There's four dudes taking significant snaps who weren't here either all of last year, or most of last year - Collins, WJ3, St-Juste, and McCain. I gotta believe things will improve as they log more time together.

Well there are two new CBs in the there this year, one of whom is a rookie and the other being asked to modify the way he plays. But I think it is also not a coincidence that things tightened up last year after he got injured, when Kurl became the full time SS.

Bostic is the obvious sore thumb here, question is how many other guys are not paying full attention to their responsibility to keep pan eye on Bostic. If you look at the blown play the TE blew past Bostic and Collins came down to cover him. It has been a point of emphasis from the coaches about taking care of your job and not always trying to be the guy who makes the play. I think too many guys may be pressing too hard to make plays, Chase Young in particular, and the who scheme falls apart when that happens

Good points…yeah, i thought last year when Collins left the field the play in the secondary improved.

Ron’s love of Bostic is hurting this team