Coronavirus (sports edition) thread

You may have posted it but you obviously only read that first blurb that seemed to back you up. If you read further it explains exactly what I am saying. Widespread vaccination will stop the variants and mutations. Which is the total opposite of what you said.

Nothing in that article says that widespread vaccination will stop the variants and mutations. Keep making thing up Punch...

The bottom line here Chief and C red is the more people get vaccinated and the quicker they get vaccinated the sooner the world goes back to normal.

If you want to argue that point go ahead. But than you are contributing to the problem in a way. You are basically saying “everyone isn’t gonna get the shot so why should it matter if I do”. Before you tell me im putting words in your mouth Chief carefully read your last post. You said exactly that.

Again, leave the brick wall alone. I never said: “everyone isn’t gonna get the shot so why should it matter if I do”

Nothing in that article says that widespread vaccination will stop the variants and mutations. Keep making thing up Punch...


Ok now you are just wasting my time. Ill copy and paste from the article one more time.


“Let’s explain this concept a little further. Any virus will keep trying to change, so it can continue to spread. With all vaccines, the more quickly people get vaccinated the better. The slower vaccination happens, the higher the chance of having mutations in the virus and the appearance of more variants. And, as we are seeing with the delta variant, the more the virus can spread in the community.

In order to keep viruses in check, everyone must do their part by getting vaccinated, and scientists must work together around the world to track emerging variant

Either you are fucking with me or im in the god damn twilight zone.

Ok now you are just wasting my time. Ill copy and paste from the article one more time.


“Let’s explain this concept a little further. Any virus will keep trying to change, so it can continue to spread. With all vaccines, the more quickly people get vaccinated the better. The slower vaccination happens, the higher the chance of having mutations in the virus and the appearance of more variants. And, as we are seeing with the delta variant, the more the virus can spread in the community.

In order to keep viruses in check, everyone must do their part by getting vaccinated, and scientists must work together around the world to track emerging variant

Either you are fucking with me or im in the god damn twilight zone.

It's both probably.

The article says we can keep viruses "in check" via vaccination; it does not say "widespread vaccination will stop the variants and mutations."

There's a big difference there.

Here you go Chief, some simple homework. Pay close attention to the last paragraph entitled bottom line.

https://www.nationaljewish.org/patients-visitors/patient-info/important-updates/coronavirus-information-and-resources/covid-19-vaccines/vaccine-articles/covid-19-variants-vaccines-why-does-a-virus-mutate

If you have information that says otherwise please feel free to share it with group, but I doubt there is any because there is only one correct answer about vaccinations and mutations.

I have copied and pasted the most important part of the paragraph below for you.

“The vaccines work well against the virus and variants. New strains can be stopped by widespread vaccination”


Quoting my own quote here Chief. Read the very last part in quotations than tell me again it doesn’t say widespread vaccination will help against mutations and new strains. Please.

Is there anyone else on this board that cares to explain how and why widespread vaccination can stop mutations and new strains ? My head hurts.

It's both probably.

The article says we can keep viruses "in check" via vaccination; it does not say "widespread vaccination will stop the variants and mutations."

There's a big difference there.


“The slower the vaccinations happen the higher chance of mutations in the virus and new strains”

How in the hell can you read it, quote it, and tell ke it doesn’t say that”? Wow. Just wow.

Quoting my own quote here Chief. Read the very last part in quotations than tell me again it doesn’t say widespread vaccination will help against mutations and new strains. Please.

That's not the article you referenced above, but I'll continue to play.

This article - https://www.nationaljewish.org/patie...a-virus-mutate - does say new strains can be stopped by widespread vaccination.

However, I tend to lean towards the conclusion provided by the infectious disease expert - that vaccinations can keep viruses "in check", rather than the conclusion provided by the pulmonary and critical care physician - that vaccinations can be "stopped" by widespread vaccination. Ultimately he's saying that vaccinations will eradicate the virus, which I have not seen any infectious disease expert imply thus far.

I'm just going to end this discussion right here because it's getting old, and I honestly think that maybe we are missing each other's points in a lot of ways. You can keep going if you want.

My original MAIN point with all of this goes along the lines of the old saying: "You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar."

All this badgering people, shaming, belittling, etc. for not getting the vaccine is not productive. It's your way, and it's the method obviously used by others on this forum and elsewhere. But it isn't helpful. Instead, maybe you should try a little encouragement if you want to get your point across, or motivate people to get the vaccine.

"An effective science defender will listen to a person’s reasons for not masking or vaccinating and share counterevidence without questioning their competence, good will or intelligence." - Scientific American

I was vaccine hesitant at first, but I am now vaccinated - have been since April. My wife is vaccinated. My one eligible kid is vaccinated. My other kid will be eligible in a few months, and she will also be vaccinated. Why, because while I understand there are potential risks, the benefits (according to the available science) seem to outweigh the risks. I educated myself and made a decision because it seemed like the best option. I didn't make the decision because someone pressured me to, or told me I was "dumb".

Would have guessed you were vaccinated. Don’t remember calling u dumb. Just misinformed. This was a simple argument about whether or not widespread vaccination could stop mutations and new strains.

It started for me when you said “get vaccinated if you want”. I thought that sounded a little counter productive or lazy in ways. When it comes to life or death use all means necessary to get shots in arms. Even if thst means using fear tactics or name calling. Its just a better alternative to the damn way of life this virus has Created. My own wife was hesitant. I understand it. I felt guinea piggish before my appointment. But i guess at the end of the day id rather have two heads than die. My daughter is 14 and was getting most of her information or misinformation from tik tok and shit like that. She got her first dose last week and im happy about that since school starts in a month. She will have received her second dose by than. Have a nice day Chief.