Coronavirus (sports edition) thread

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Chief X_Phackter
08-17-2021, 10:41 PM
I respect you Chief, but I believe the real numbers - not those that come from unverified internet sources - back up that the vaccine is safe and legitimate. Is it safe for literally everyone? No. But that's the case with every vaccine. Is it safe for the overwhelming majority of people? I believe so. How long are you willing to wait before you clear it of long term side effects?

I do too man.

I could be wrong, but I don't think we are actually that different in our thinking in the grand scheme of things with regard to this vaccine. I wish there weren't two sides, but there are; and it's deeper than just the FDA approval issue. I'm just not a fan of either side bashing the other. It's not productive in my opinion, and it makes things more divisive, which is exactly what we don't need anymore of right now.

With regard to how long I'm willing to wait before I clear it of long term side effects - I'm not waiting. I was vaccinated back in March/April. At first I didn't think I would get it as I didn't fall into one of the high-risk categories. But I kept coming back to the fact that I spent 22 years in the Army going wherever they wanted me to go, and being given all the necessary inoculations to get to all those fine places. So while I don't consider myself high-risk for this virus, after weighing my options, it didn't make much sense for me to sit it out.

Schneed10
08-17-2021, 11:30 PM
I love how complicated people want to make this. It’s this simple:

- with Delta’s R value, if you’re unvaccinated you WILL get infected. Not maybe. Not possibly. WILL.

- understanding that, and I know plenty of dumb fucks out there have to get over the Superman complex first (well, it won’t happen to me…), but understanding that, it comes down to a simple choice. Do I like my survival odds better with the vaccine, or without it?

It’s that simple. If you’re still too dumb to get it, then we should probably just let the virus select you out of the gene pool.

rocnrik
08-17-2021, 11:45 PM
I love how complicated people want to make this. It’s this simple:

- with Delta’s R value, if you’re unvaccinated you WILL get infected. Not maybe. Not possibly. WILL.

- understanding that, and I know plenty of dumb fucks out there have to get over the Superman complex first (well, it won’t happen to me…), but understanding that, it comes down to a simple choice. Do I like my survival odds better with the vaccine, or without it?

It’s that simple. If you’re still too dumb to get it, then we should probably just let the virus select you out of the gene pool.

I agree with this ! I gotta good friends who won’t get vaccinated and I hope they don’t catch this virus ..some of there arguments don’t make any sense. If you have any health issues and don’t get vaccinated you are truly gambling with your life .. but what about the vaccine side effects ??? Well what about the side effects from dying with covid …. take the Poke this shit is no joke !!

punch it in
08-17-2021, 11:53 PM
I love how complicated people want to make this. It’s this simple:

- with Delta’s R value, if you’re unvaccinated you WILL get infected. Not maybe. Not possibly. WILL.

- understanding that, and I know plenty of dumb fucks out there have to get over the Superman complex first (well, it won’t happen to me…), but understanding that, it comes down to a simple choice. Do I like my survival odds better with the vaccine, or without it?

It’s that simple. If you’re still too dumb to get it, then we should probably just let the virus select you out of the gene pool.


Yup. Numbers do not lie.

A lot of people are getting very sick and dying from covid.

Nobody is dying from the vaccine, three blood clots that may or may not be related with the JJ shot and seems to have been an extremely minor hiccup.

Almost all of the serious cases are the unvaccinated.


misinformed people are going to keep this virus alive until the delta variant mutates into something worse.

Fuck you. Get your shots. All our lives depend on each other doing the right thing.
Im sorry I Cant just say “I respect your decision not to “ , when it means this fucking virus is going to keep mutating and people are going to keep dying because of some fear that somehow something could be worse than dying?!? Like what in the fuck can that scary scary vaccine do to you that is worse than dying?!?!? Jesus Christ man up and get your fuckin shots.

Chief X_Phackter
08-18-2021, 01:09 AM
"Fuck you". Now there's an intelligent take on it all. :pffff:

Unfortunately, this virus will keep mutating regardless, because that is what viruses do. The COVID vaccines will likely have to be changed regularly, just like the flu vaccines.

I'm afraid this thing is here to stay, so get used to it.

punch it in
08-18-2021, 08:08 AM
"Fuck you". Now there's an intelligent take on it all. :pffff:

Unfortunately, this virus will keep mutating regardless, because that is what viruses do. The COVID vaccines will likely have to be changed regularly, just like the flu vaccines.

I'm afraid this thing is here to stay, so get used to it.


So we are back to its the flu? [emoji1750]

If this virus requires a yearly shot than again fuck you get it. You know why? Because the flu does not kill like covid does.
Right now though what the science and the doctors are telling us is that we can stop this thing by getting vaccinated- it will die. And you have no idea if it will keep coming back like the flu.

But if your solution is “this is the flu, and its not going anywhere so give up and live with it” well no wonder we are in this situation.

If everyone in America was vaccinated right now cases would be next to nothing, certainly deaths would be. But hey lets just learn to live with this many people dying because who wants to MAYBE get a shot once a year. [emoji35]

EdmundDorf
08-18-2021, 08:28 AM
"Fuck you". Now there's an intelligent take on it all. :pffff:

Unfortunately, this virus will keep mutating regardless, because that is what viruses do. The COVID vaccines will likely have to be changed regularly, just like the flu vaccines.

I'm afraid this thing is here to stay, so get used to it.

Mutations are a matter of probability, the longer the disease hangs around and the more people who have it the greater the chance of future mutations. That is why the "individual choice" to take the vaccine or wear the mask is one that effects everybody. The longer this goes on the increase chance that a new variant will spring up that will not be affected by the Vaccine, then every body is back to square one.

Schneed10
08-18-2021, 09:20 AM
"Fuck you". Now there's an intelligent take on it all. :pffff:

Unfortunately, this virus will keep mutating regardless, because that is what viruses do. The COVID vaccines will likely have to be changed regularly, just like the flu vaccines.

I'm afraid this thing is here to stay, so get used to it.

You clearly don't have much background in statistics. The more virus there is in the world, the more likely it is to mutate.

Let's put it this way, in which country are we more likely to see 1M or more cases of Down Syndrome:

1) India, with population of 1.36 billion
2) Singapore, with a population of 5.7 million

The fewer people that have the virus in the world, the less likely it is to mutate.

punch it in
08-18-2021, 09:24 AM
And even if it did its not the flu. We can live with the flu. Even if it becomes like the flu vaccine though than it is The current situation vs a trip to the pharmacy once a year. [emoji848]

punch it in
08-18-2021, 09:26 AM
Having this conversation after the last 18 months is mind numbing to say the least. People choosing sickness, deaths, masks, shutsowns, fear over what? A shot? Holy shit.

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